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    CWL should NOT disrupt Clan Wars 🦈

    Clan War Leagues are disruptive to regular clan wars. I will elaborate. At the end, I offer a simple and elegant solution that fixes almost everything.

    1. During the CWL signup period regular clan wars cannot be started. Why? There is no good reason for this.

    2. During CWL week, regular clan wars start slower with a higher chance of mismatches due to a smaller pool of clans doing regular clan war searches. Why? This can be easily fixed!

    3. We all know CWL was poorly conceived, and mismatches are guaranteed by design... especially for multi-level clans. This was predictable from the moment CWL was announced. A well-organized clan with good teamwork will consistently face much stronger and less organized clans. We’re typically facing clans with an average 2 town hall level advantage. Still, we don’t get demoted because we’re organized enough to get 5th or 6th place. Bottom line: It’s no fun. Individual matchups are not competitive, so we’re sniping town halls and dipping to maximize our total war stars. This is A LOT less exciting than a competitive clan war. Imagine how demoralizing it is the moment battle day starts and our th7’s see the enemy’s lowest player is a th11! The choice between 15 or 30 players ultimately leads to more players being left out. There is generally more unwanted drama each CWL week. Why punish us with CWL? We don’t want it. I know we can always skip CWL, but see points 1 & 2 above. CWL has made everyone suffer unnecessarily. Supercell can end the suffering!

    4. Many players reluctantly suffer through CWL only for the hammers & loot. It might be good if there was another way to win or earn hammers outside of CWL, but then interest in CWL could plummet. Many clans have started alternate clans just for the purpose of doing CWL, while they continue doing regular wars in their main clan. This is a nuisance as players must hop back and forth between clans and ask for elder/co restored each time.

    5. Engineered accounts have no use for CWL and they are of no use in CWL.

    6. During CWL, new players don’t have the opportunity to learn our war strategy for regular clan wars. Then they’re confused when regular wars resume. New players recruited during CWL must wait for regular wars to resume. Sometimes they aren’t even paying attention after a few days.

    So here is my simple suggestion...

    CWL should not interfere with regular wars in any way. Each player can have 2 separate opt buttons for regular clan wars & CWL. CWL and clan wars don’t need to change at all. Just decouple then. Clans should be able to do back-to-back regular clan wars nonstop without the incessant monthly distraction of CWL... without the days wasted waiting for CWL signup to end... without the major disruption to our regular war rhythm. There’s no good reason for CWL to interfere with regular clan wars. If you want, CWL could exist in a separate realm... sort of like builder base.

    Why not let a single clan do CWL and continue doing regular wars at the same time? If an individual player can do regular wars in one clan while simultaneously doing CWL in another clan, then why can’t we do both simultaneously in the same clan? It seems much easier for everyone involved.

    CWL is a major disruption to regular clan wars and to the clan in general. As a fairly well organized clan, we have ways to deal with all of these CWL-related problems. That doesn’t make them any less annoying.

    The ability for a single clan to do both CWL and regular wars simultaneously would eliminate many of the nuisances of CWL. People might even start liking the game more again.

    This is coming sincerely from someone who loves Clash of Clans and wants it to succeed as much as you do. Please fix this.

    Thanks! 🦈

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    I would say that are best suggestions

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    The matchmaking in cwl is based on your clan league not on the basis of your town hall .
    Even if your idea is added the number of players opting to clan war will be less as they all want to focus there planning and energy to CWL only and don't want to divert their efforts

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    1. You can't sign up for regular wars to guarentee there's time to get ready for CWL and to move to the appropriate clan if need be.

    2. How on Earth do you know it can be easily fixed? Like at any other time a "mismatch" is just as likely, and usually it's not even a mismatch you just believe it is.

    3. I'm pretty sure *we* all don't know CWL was poorly conceived because it functions exactly as it should and your Clan is actual proof. You're not suppose to win every war. In CWL, as with any system like this, the strongest will rise and you'll level out in a league where you win roughly 50% of the time...which you are.

    4. Agreed, but that's more because they just want to double dip and have both wars running simultaneously which isn't possible in the same clan so this isn't going to change.

    5. Your point? Engineered accounts suffer more in CWL and are a bonus if you're facing them because they're a guarenteed 3*.

    6. And? Sounds like a leadership issue.

    Anyway, I've already addressed this, but without a major recoding of the entire game there's no way for a clan to host both a regular war and participate in CWL as we've heard directly from Supercell.

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    Bloodyirishman’s post already covers a lot.

    There’s very little to fix.
    it is really only 2 days in which a clan can’t start a regular war. It was done with very good reasons one of which being avoiding complaints from clans “my co leader accidentally started a normal war and now we miss out on CWL, you must fix” not only would the forums and social media be flooded with such complaints every single month so would player support. Therefore the 2 day window is quite the most simple and elegant solution.

    SC also doesn’t want clans to run CWL AND regular CW simultaneously, at least not the same players. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing.

    Of course during CWL season the clans and players spinning normal CW is far less making matching a bit more tricky. Everyone is playing CWL or on the roster for free medals.

    Lastly. If you want to discuss what you consider flaws in CW or CWL you’re welcome to do so in the appropriate subforum called clan wars. And stay away from phrases like “we all know that..” which is followed by a (controversial) opinion. Speak for yourself because I certainly do not agree with you and certainly don’t belong to that “we” you speak of.

    if you want to CWL, learn a few things about the CWL concept and don’t forget to put your big boy panties on.

    Thank you TerMinus Prime

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