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    CWL Defense weight compendium

    Hi and welcome to the thread where we can hopefully share detailed base weight information of rosters competing in CWL. I intend to update this thread monthly with my own data, but it'd be great if people would add in theirs as well.

    The motivation for doing this is partially born out of ongoing discussions of the usefulness of defense in CWL and partially questions surrounding what rosters are and aren't viable in a particular league. This is not information one can pull from the API.

    Eventually, if we can get enough data, I intend to do some simple analysis to attempt to answer some of the questions.

    The method is this: gather all participating clans final star score, their final rank and the individual bases' gold weight on the day you encounter them. For your own clan it'd be preferable to get gold weights from 4th war as an average. This way we have to assume that enemy gold weights are representative of their entire roster, not just the one we're seeing. If your clan is doing a new initial seeding it'd be great to know as well.

    Anyway, it could be a fun and informative project to have going. I implore anyone regardless of league, roster size and competence level to add their information.

    Thank you.


    Data here:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...zkw50-/pubhtml
    Last edited by Munitor; September 10th, 2020 at 09:57 AM.

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    Example data

    Gold 3 August 15v

    RANK 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
    STARS 320 312 242 230 224 188 103 35
    ROSTER1 119 119 118 129 128 118 105 115
    ROSTER2 119 118 113 127 118 102 86 111
    ROSTER3 118 112 112 121 109 101 81 106
    ROSTER4 118 108 112 118 100 82 80 97
    ROSTER5 118 107 111 116 83 75 66 88
    ROSTER6 115 105 105 115 82 64 66 79
    ROSTER7 115 100 101 113 81 64 64 78
    ROSTER8 111 95 90 103 70 63 63 72
    ROSTER9 111 94 89 100 69 61 62 72
    ROSTER10 111 93 86 86 69 61 60 68
    ROSTER11 110 85 85 66 69 60 56 66
    ROSTER12 108 84 84 65 67 50 51 52
    ROSTER13 107 68 83 61 67 49 45 50
    ROSTER14 102 61 82 59 62 47 37 38
    ROSTER15 102 56 81 41 62 46 34 29
    Last edited by Munitor; September 10th, 2020 at 09:56 AM.

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    Interesting stuff Munitor..
    It is certainly something that should be of use in the war sub section..
    Will it be only 15v war size, or are you doing both?

    Of course a stickie would save having to dig it out every month.. ahem..
    Havent anything this month, but will add our information going forward.

    Please dont laugh at our clans efforts..

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    I could do this in Gold 3 but our main clan has already rolled another war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshsgrandad View Post
    Interesting stuff Munitor..
    It is certainly something that should be of use in the war sub section..
    Will it be only 15v war size, or are you doing both?

    Of course a stickie would save having to dig it out every month.. ahem..
    Havent anything this month, but will add our information going forward.

    Please dont laugh at our clans efforts..
    Oh you should absolutely add your data if you're 30v roster size. It'll be very interesting to see if there's a difference in viable base weights between 15v and 30v.

    And no, there shall be no laughing at amateurs (I am myself one)! In fact if contributors feel like bragging about punching above their weight I fully support it.

    Oh and FYI it took me a mere 20 mins to do the readout for this league (It'll probably be twice that for 30v). So it's a tiny bit of time spent every month, but with the potential to benefit us all.
    Last edited by Munitor; August 13th, 2020 at 02:42 PM.

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    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    Included a link to the actual league info on clashspot as well. yellow highlight is us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegreatpuma View Post
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    Included a link to the actual league info on clashspot as well. yellow highlight is us.
    Awesome, thanks for the data. Those are some mighty lightweight rosters! What's a weight of 5000 btw? TH3 fill?

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    Yep. It was the lightest account we saw.
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    Here are some preliminary graphs:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...ktY/edit#gid=0

    First up is the total weight distributions.

    Second is a cumulative plot of distributions for clans that stay, promote and demote.

    Third is standardized clan gold weight vs standardized clan stars and a proposed linear relationship.

    Cheers

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    I'd kind of be more interested if the set of data was all initial seeded clans imo.
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