Defending against Lightning spells on DE storage

[zachUVA]

Care to comment on no converting 1 resource to another? Or just conveniently left that out? :P

Sure. But in several of your posts, you seemed to get mad at people who nitpick at one part of an arguement. Hmmmm.


Anyway, this is a conversion of resources that is highly inefficient. You can trade 60k of gold and 3 hours of time, for about 500-700 DE. On top of that, there is a great chance that you will lose quite a bit of that in the same manner. Players that use lightning spells to accumulate dark elixir are honestly being very inefficient.


On a broader scale, that argument is a moot point anyways. Everything in the game is based on indirect resource conversion like that. You know what I did today? I used about 50k of elixir to make an army, and raided over 200k gold!

[Growler]

Lol
I was trying to work out what de****ate could be......

The stupid filter thinks I am illiterate and racist.

[Horus40k]

The stupid filter thinks I am illiterate and racist.

The filter hates us all equally

[Hannibal]

I agree with the efficiency argument. 60-80k gold for 700-1.5k DE isn't a trade I would make.

On the other hand, when you're raiding a lot and getting revenged for 700-1.5k several times a day it puts a pretty big dent in DE acquisition.

[bsmittyau]

Sure. But in several of your posts, you seemed to get mad at people who nitpick at one part of an arguement. Hmmmm.


Anyway, this is a conversion of resources that is highly inefficient. You can trade 60k of gold and 3 hours of time, for about 500-700 DE. On top of that, there is a great chance that you will lose quite a bit of that in the same manner. Players that use lightning spells to accumulate dark elixir are honestly being very inefficient.


On a broader scale, that argument is a moot point anyways. Everything in the game is based on indirect resource conversion like that. You know what I did today? I used about 50k of elixir to make an army, and raided over 200k gold!

As usual, apples to oranges. Your 50k was an investment that may or may not succeed. No guarantee. Plenty of variables.

Lightning... No variable. Cook one hour, press two buttons, VOILA! Resource conversion. No risk at all. 60k and an hour is much more cost effective than your 10 dragon example which costs multiple hours and 300k+ elixir, and still no guarantee. If the dragon scenario was a problem people would be complaining about it here every day. Completely unrelated.

Care to try again? 60k is nothing for someone that has no DE and wants a hero, obviously. It also gives farmers more incentive not to step up and raid for DE... They can stay at 1000 trophies and just revenge attack for DE where there would otherwise be none.

Hmm...

[zachUVA]

As usual, apples to oranges. Your 50k was an investment that may or may not succeed. No guarantee. Plenty of variables.

Lightning... No variable. Cook one hour, press two buttons, VOILA! Resource conversion. No risk at all. 60k and an hour is much more cost effective than your 10 dragon example which costs multiple hours and 300k+ elixir, and still no guarantee. If the dragon scenario was a problem people would be complaining about it here every day. Completely unrelated.

Care to try again? 60k is nothing for someone that has no DE and wants a hero, obviously. It also gives farmers more incentive not to step up and raid for DE... They can stay at 1000 trophies and just revenge attack for DE where there would otherwise be none.

Hmm...

Reread my posts, because you are trying to mix two completely different arguements. My dragon example had nothing to do with your resource conversion arguement.

As for the risk involed, I will grant you that. Making spells for this purpose comes with virtually no risk at all, whereas troops require at least a mediocre level of skill. That doesnt adress the larger point, though. Spells have a far lower rate of return than troops. Period. This is what makes your resource conversion arguement wrong. Troops make a more efficient conversion from elixir to either gold or dark elixir than any spell, lightning included.

[bsmittyau]

Disagree. Hit a near maxed guy with lightning once. 3 spells got me almost 2k. Coulda sent every troop I had at him and barely breached an outer wall. That's unbalanced.

I get the dragon argument was separate, but based on the statement in the previous paragraph, I still contend that even with dragons (which would still be counter productive in every circumstance), I wouldn't have been able to touch the guy. Still variables and skill involved there, and still no guarantee of success.

Only skill I needed to steal his DE like a thief in the night turned out to be locating his storage.

[sandiego]

Ok your skills with English just missed me completely

Revenge tactics ..... Your clearly are an idiot then. How else can revenge tactics work
1. They can not be online
2. They can not have a shield running
3. You can visit them and wait for their resources to be there....

How does your revenge work then. Different from us normal players.

I always love idiots that throw out a two option statement and say " well which one are you"
I'm neither, but you have an overrated opinion of yourself and what your doing here. Just because you think your right does not mean you are
Your playing a game...

An if you read my post you would see I don't use lightening like you describe people, I merely said it was not unfair.
You then go down an ignorant rant just because I don't believe you have skills at this game.
No hand eye coordination, no puzzle to solve... It's just build, upgrade and raid and defend.

Make your life seem really exciting by claiming you have skills, I don't care if you believe you do or not. But you certainly care when told I don't believe we do
How is that ignorant, why because I dare disagree with you. That makes you ignorant. But if it makes you feel better. There, there, you are brilliant at the game, a master - what lvl and TH are you?


♥♥ thinks your a threads a winner..... What's that two or three warnings and a deleted thread ♥♥. Your opinion is not sooo welcome, why not get another thread closed

Get a clue bro! I'm saying your revenge solution doesn't always work. Those are three reasons it may not work.

I don't give a rat's asss how u play the game. I'm only making a statement on how the game can be improved and I said those defending this "EASY button" way of raiding the most precious commodity were morons because it is out of character with the rest of the game.

Clash of Clans is a game of SKILL. Sorry your community college didn't educate you well enough to understand that. Most everyone else can figure this out pretty quickly. I never claimed to have "mad skilz", just voicing my preference for skill based gameplay. There is no skill involved in dropping 2-4 lightning spells and wiping out an entire dark elixir or mortar or wiz tower. If they tweaked it so that you could only hit an area 1 time then you could still soften up the defenses or mow down clan castle troops but you would get rid of the jackasses who just raid 2 steal dark elixir and don't even throw down troops.

[bsmittyau]

Get a clue bro! I'm saying your revenge solution doesn't always work. Those are three reasons it may not work.

I don't give a rat's asss how u play the game. I'm only making a statement on how the game can be improved and I said those defending this "EASY button" way of raiding the most precious commodity were morons because it is out of character with the rest of the game.

Clash of Clans is a game of SKILL. Sorry your community college didn't educate you well enough to understand that. Most everyone else can figure this out pretty quickly. I never claimed to have "mad skilz", just voicing my preference for skill based gameplay. There is no skill involved in dropping 2-4 lightning spells and wiping out an entire dark elixir or mortar or wiz tower. If they tweaked it so that you could only hit an area 1 time then you could still soften up the defenses or mow down clan castle troops but you would get rid of the jackasses who just raid 2 steal dark elixir and don't even throw down troops.

Lol... Narrow minded dudes here man. If they find something to manipulate to their advantage, they'll defend it Tk the grave regardless of fairness. Don't take it personally. SC encourages their attitude by rarely changing anything.

[strikerage]

Didi...

The counter should not be a "blanket" defense for your whole base. Tesla would be the best option IMO. The lightning user needs some risk involved for such a strong spell. If there was a chance he'd be casting it on a tesla, which is hidden, which would reduce the damage a good bit, then the spell is fair for both sides. It would only need to be a one tile radius, basically only protecting items that are "touching" the tesla. You can't tell me that this wouldn't be a decent solution. Dragons are pretty cool too but if there was no air defense it would be pretty lopsided. Same applies here.

Why don't we just add a "Nuke" spell that wipes out someone's entire village in one click? Neither is defendable, so what would be the difference? And remember, if everyone has access to it then it's gotta be balanced!!!

I love this idea o_o hidden teslas' do resemble lightening rods in a way, no?