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    Quote Originally Posted by ExploringGalaxy View Post
    Guys my request has nothing to do with "how many years will it take to max a base", but my suggestion is that 24× builder potion is more efficient and also easy to use.
    It may seem easier to use, but it probably won't change. Think about it. Builder potions are pretty expensive and rare right now. Increasing their efficiency will result in a price increase (following logic, if 285 gems are for 1 potion, and this potion is 2.4 times more efficient, the new price will be 650+ gems), and in a rarity increase. Do you really want this? I mean they'll be more expensive than hero books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookiemonster123123 View Post
    It may seem easier to use, but it probably won't change. Think about it. Builder potions are pretty expensive and rare right now. Increasing their efficiency will result in a price increase (following logic, if 285 gems are for 1 potion, and this potion is 2.4 times more efficient, the new price will be 650+ gems), and in a rarity increase. Do you really want this? I mean they'll be more expensive than hero books.
    It means you agree that they are expensive amd rare right now, why don't you feel that getting 10× for such a rare and expensive potion is quite less rewarding.
    In case of 24× , Instead of making it more rare, just change it like research potion was changed. I don't see it being owerpowered as it costs 30 MEDALS or a lot of gems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExploringGalaxy View Post
    It means you agree that they are expensive amd rare right now, why don't you feel that getting 10× for such a rare and expensive potion is quite less rewarding.
    In case of 24× , Instead of making it more rare, just change it like research potion was changed. I don't see it being owerpowered as it costs 30 MEDALS or a lot of gems.
    They once increased the number of medals required to buy Builder Potion without making any additional buff to the potion and you expect them to make it even more rewarding at same price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExploringGalaxy View Post
    It means you agree that they are expensive amd rare right now, why don't you feel that getting 10× for such a rare and expensive potion is quite less rewarding.
    In case of 24× , Instead of making it more rare, just change it like research potion was changed. I don't see it being owerpowered as it costs 30 MEDALS or a lot of gems.
    Lab potion was overpriced for little value. That is why it was changed. The current builder potions provides plenty of value for the cost. You change would save almost 6 days of build time if you have 6 builders. That is excessive value for the cost. You have to look at its total impact, not just on one builder. That was the other reason the lab potion needed a boost. It only boosted one thing, not 5 or 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExploringGalaxy View Post
    It means you agree that they are expensive amd rare right now, why don't you feel that getting 10× for such a rare and expensive potion is quite less rewarding.
    In case of 24× , Instead of making it more rare, just change it like research potion was changed. I don't see it being owerpowered as it costs 30 MEDALS or a lot of gems.
    They increased the price in medals once because SC already thought it had incredible value.
    You compare builder potion with the lab but let’s not forget you only have 1 lab and 1 thing being upgraded in there at any time.
    With builder potions you can have 6(!) builders working at the same time who all benefit from the potion. It can save a lot of building hours.

    You want the builder potion to have way more value this could only come at a price increase. It will be way too much if you can complete a hero upgrade with 6 builder potions and shave 6 building days off on all other builds.

    I cant walk into a Ferrari dealership and ask they sell me a Ferrari for the price of a Fiat. Lets be realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExploringGalaxy View Post
    It means you agree that they are expensive amd rare right now, why don't you feel that getting 10× for such a rare and expensive potion is quite less rewarding.
    In case of 24× , Instead of making it more rare, just change it like research potion was changed. I don't see it being owerpowered as it costs 30 MEDALS or a lot of gems.
    Yes I did say it was expensive, but did I say that it was unbalanced? No. The builder potion is expensive because it's good, and can speed up time by a lot.

    The reason the research potion was changed was because it didn't have enough value for its price. You only have 1 lab, but you can have up to 6 builders, so it makes sense that the research potion has a bigger boost. Think about it as "concentration." You concentrate all you research boost into one lab, but you spread out your builder boost throughout your 6 builders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaptain Kat View Post
    They increased the price in medals once because SC already thought it had incredible value.
    You compare builder potion with the lab but let’s not forget you only have 1 lab and 1 thing being upgraded in there at any time.
    With builder potions you can have 6(!) builders working at the same time who all benefit from the potion. It can save a lot of building hours.

    You want the builder potion to have way more value this could only come at a price increase. It will be way too much if you can complete a hero upgrade with 6 builder potions and shave 6 building days off on all other builds.

    I cant walk into a Ferrari dealership and ask they sell me a Ferrari for the price of a Fiat. Lets be realistic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Piper139 View Post
    Lab potion was overpriced for little value. That is why it was changed. The current builder potions provides plenty of value for the cost. You change would save almost 6 days of build time if you have 6 builders. That is excessive value for the cost. You have to look at its total impact, not just on one builder. That was the other reason the lab potion needed a boost. It only boosted one thing, not 5 or 6.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cookiemonster123123 View Post
    Yes I did say it was expensive, but did I say that it was unbalanced? No. The builder potion is expensive because it's good, and can speed up time by a lot.

    The reason the research potion was changed was because it didn't have enough value for its price. You only have 1 lab, but you can have up to 6 builders, so it makes sense that the research potion has a bigger boost. Think about it as "concentration." You concentrate all you research boost into one lab, but you spread out your builder boost throughout your 6 builders.
    Don't forget that those 6 builders have so many buildings along with heroes levels to upgrade where as lab has small stuff of upgrades, so i think they are almost balanced.
    And if sc can do for research potion then why not builder potion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExploringGalaxy View Post
    Don't forget that those 6 builders have so many buildings along with heroes levels to upgrade where as lab has small stuff of upgrades, so i think they are almost balanced.
    And if sc can do for research potion then why not builder potion.
    The upgrade in the lab is not small, its narrow and long as you can only progress 1 at a time, unlike the buildings where you can have 6 builders x 10 = 60x boost, imagine each one upgrades at 10 days, you already fast forwarding worth 60 days of upgrading.

    You only see individual pieces of the potion application instead of thinking of its purpose as a whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExploringGalaxy View Post
    Don't forget that those 6 builders have so many buildings along with heroes levels to upgrade where as lab has small stuff of upgrades, so i think they are almost balanced.
    And if sc can do for research potion then why not builder potion.
    This isn’t a question of whether it’s technically possible or not, of course it would be technically possible but what we’re all saying is that it would be unbalanced. In light of that balance the lab potion was improved because it didn’t feel quite right in terms of price and benefit. This isn’t an issue with builder pots.

    Lets look at a scenario, let’s say you have 6 builders. 3 are working on other upgrades and you put 3 heroes down. Now with your idea throwing down only 6 builder potions and a short overnight wait could finish those hero levels plus the 6 days you gain on your other three builds...
    And you really still don’t think that those 180 medals would be really unbalanced compared to books or hammers of heroes or books or hammers of building ? And what would you do about the lab potion ? You don’t think if the builder potion is this powerful the lab potion suddenly gets left far far behind ?

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    Ok i got it guys, but no one including me uses current builder potion.(i met across many players to ask if they do, even i asked in some of my friends clans).
    Everyone says that it is less rewarding and highly priced and very rare. So I thought to request it here but its ok if you all think it would be too op.

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