The Tempest: A TH8 Base Design (2 Formations)

[Skullone]

Orz,

I need to thank you again. Yesterday my clan won yet another war. We ended up winning 87-84.

We have some people with great bases that had great defenses but this last war Tempest 5.0 really earned some praise from me as my base held up amazingly well. To the point where I hope the other TH8's in the clan switch to Tempest or a variation of it.

Over the course of the war I was attacked EIGHT times. 5 for one star. 2 defended. The final attack was a 3 star by their number 2 TH10. He hit me with Level 5 hogs and Level 6 loons. He hit me the final 2 hours of the war as a last ditch effort to try to get a win. He didn't have anywhere else to go as everything else was already 2-3 starred or he would have to try to hit our TH10's.

Tempest made them waste 6 attacks during the war. Six attacks that generated nothing for them. I'm certainly not solely responsible for the win but between my attacks and my defense I was definitely the MVP this time around.

-S1

[Graff]

How does this fair against all dragons? I get dragon'd constantly. Getting tired of it lol

[Sons]

Well, I just became a TH 8 last week and have been debating whether to use Orz's Shuriken or The Tempest. Even created a poll for people to vote which one is their favorite. After getting attacked in CW's by 40 lvl5 hogs, a lvl 10 BK, a lvl 8 AQ, and the rest lvl 5 Barbs and Archers, I am now sold on The Tempest. 1 Star against that army seems pretty strong to me. They also had 3 rage spells. Attacked from the bottom right and 90% of them went across the bottom through the teslas and two wizard towers. That was as far as they made it. Then the AQ just picked of a bunch of outside buildings to get 62%.

I had 1 lvl4 barb, 5 lvl6 archers, 3 lvl5 wizards, and 1 lvl4 minion in my CC. They did help.

I was using 5.0 by the way.

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[Skullone]

Well, I just became a TH 8 last week and have been debating whether to use Orz's Shuriken or The Tempest. Even created a poll for people to vote which one is their favorite. After getting attacked in CW's by 40 lvl5 hogs, a lvl 10 BK, a lvl 8 AQ, and the rest lvl 5 Barbs and Archers, I am now sold on The Tempest. 1 Star against that army seems pretty strong to me. They also had 3 rage spells. Attacked from the bottom right and 90% of them went across the bottom through the teslas and two wizard towers. That was as far as they made it. Then the AQ just picked of a bunch of outside buildings to get 62%.

I had 1 lvl4 barb, 5 lvl6 archers, 3 lvl5 wizards, and 1 lvl4 minion in my CC. They did help.

I was using 5.0 by the way.

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I'd love to see a video of that replay because that guy screwed up royally. He should have 3 starred you easy.

[Sons]

I'd love to see a video of that replay because that guy screwed up royally. He should have 3 starred you easy.

I have no idea how to record it so I could post it to Youtube. I guess I could record it with another phone, probably going to be sloppy though. I'll give it a try and post it if it's any good. But yeah, he did not do a good job on attacking.

[Orz]

Update on 5.0 design : Warbase worked great....

got 1 starred by a th10 premmie :
38 arch / 15 giants/ 20 barbs / 7 wb / 15 wiz / 25 gobs / cc troops / freeze, 2 lightning, 2 rage
giants lvl 6, rest lvl 5
dumb attack ...good for me...

but this is what happened last night :

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got attacked by 16 lvl5 giants; 6 deployed right away to SE cannon...second wave of 6 went for archertower under construction . Instead of moving on to second cannon they went for the walls to the AD only to go on to cannon after destroying the AD. With only one wall to reach the core, goblins finished the work looting my DE ....

so the attack was done by : 16 giants / 3 healers/ 630 archers / 53 goblins / CC troops / 2 lightning and 1 heal spell
60 % and got all but the 2 storages west of my base....

Was this a funnel not working or do giants have weird AI ? When do they go for walls instead of a "unwalled defence"?

curious for that answer!

..hope this doesnt make the base outdated hehe

Yeah its an AI problem. From experience, giants sometimes attack the wall for the AD or skip the wall and head for the cannon. I've been messing with this for so long lol. But AFAIK there isn't a solid way to ensure it 100% doesn't attack the wall. And its all because of their AI unfortunately.

Attachment 38284 got 3 star

26 level 6 giants and 4 spells is a bit overkill lol.

I have a question Orz, how do you get to the names of your bases?

I just look at them and just make a name from what I see I guess, what the base does etc. Pure inspiration

Nice base orz this is my favourite th8 base

Thanks

Orz,

I need to thank you again. Yesterday my clan won yet another war. We ended up winning 87-84.

We have some people with great bases that had great defenses but this last war Tempest 5.0 really earned some praise from me as my base held up amazingly well. To the point where I hope the other TH8's in the clan switch to Tempest or a variation of it.

Over the course of the war I was attacked EIGHT times. 5 for one star. 2 defended. The final attack was a 3 star by their number 2 TH10. He hit me with Level 5 hogs and Level 6 loons. He hit me the final 2 hours of the war as a last ditch effort to try to get a win. He didn't have anywhere else to go as everything else was already 2-3 starred or he would have to try to hit our TH10's.

Tempest made them waste 6 attacks during the war. Six attacks that generated nothing for them. I'm certainly not solely responsible for the win but between my attacks and my defense I was definitely the MVP this time around.

-S1

Ahaha that is a great win in CW We had a few close ones too but not that close. Must've felt amazing.
Great job!

How does this fair against all dragons? I get dragon'd constantly. Getting tired of it lol

Well, I just became a TH 8 last week and have been debating whether to use Orz's Shuriken or The Tempest. Even created a poll for people to vote which one is their favorite. After getting attacked in CW's by 40 lvl5 hogs, a lvl 10 BK, a lvl 8 AQ, and the rest lvl 5 Barbs and Archers, I am now sold on The Tempest. 1 Star against that army seems pretty strong to me. They also had 3 rage spells. Attacked from the bottom right and 90% of them went across the bottom through the teslas and two wizard towers. That was as far as they made it. Then the AQ just picked of a bunch of outside buildings to get 62%.

I had 1 lvl4 barb, 5 lvl6 archers, 3 lvl5 wizards, and 1 lvl4 minion in my CC. They did help.

I was using 5.0 by the way.

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Lol i bet that guy wouldn't have been happy :P
If someone with max hogs and spells, the only way you won't get 3 starred is if they did something wrong, and I think this guy did something really wrong

[r3005418]

is it possible to get a picture with walls only?

That really helps me thanks in advance.

[NoCluE]

Hi Orz,

Thanks for feedback on my previous posts ....Appreciate the time and effort so i like to post my "experiences"with this layout.......
Yes i've had some succesfull attacks on my base but i've just started with th8 so i have 3 defensive buildings in "upgrade" all the time.....
What does bother me is attacks from the NE or NW (where cannon and elixer storage are). Six well placed wallbreakers can get you to the core because they are not drawn to other compartments... But if you make more compartments, you lose the funnelling.....Don't you have the same problem, or does this become less of a problem with better upgraded defences?
Curious to see your response

tnx again


some scores (mortar, wiztower, cannon in upgrade) ; I always have CC troops (arch, wiz, dragon):

BARCH from SE: 80 arch/124 barb/2 wb/bbk lvl10/1x heal lvl5 troops and spell : 54% (120k gold, 34k elix, 460 DE)

SE + E attack: 26 giants/5 wiz/6wb/20 arch/ 9barb/20 gob/1 healer/3 lightning/1 heal/bbk lvl3 : 59% (87k gold, 4k elixer, 423 DE)

[youlanjiaocibai]

Hi orz,I guess there will be new changes of tempest again? btw I can't find you inside cavebears

[Orz]

Hi Orz,

Thanks for feedback on my previous posts ....Appreciate the time and effort so i like to post my "experiences"with this layout.......
Yes i've had some succesfull attacks on my base but i've just started with th8 so i have 3 defensive buildings in "upgrade" all the time.....
What does bother me is attacks from the NE or NW (where cannon and elixer storage are). Six well placed wallbreakers can get you to the core because they are not drawn to other compartments... But if you make more compartments, you lose the funnelling.....Don't you have the same problem, or does this become less of a problem with better upgraded defences?
Curious to see your response

tnx again


some scores (mortar, wiztower, cannon in upgrade) ; I always have CC troops (arch, wiz, dragon):

BARCH from SE: 80 arch/124 barb/2 wb/bbk lvl10/1x heal lvl5 troops and spell : 54% (120k gold, 34k elix, 460 DE)

SE + E attack: 26 giants/5 wiz/6wb/20 arch/ 9barb/20 gob/1 healer/3 lightning/1 heal/bbk lvl3 : 59% (87k gold, 4k elixer, 423 DE)

Yeah I can understand you point. Personally when I use it, I don't have any issues because as your defences grow stronger, it seems attackers can't reach the core as often and it becomes much less of an issue. As a new TH8, your reliance on funneling is quite high.

When designing a base, its kind of like a funneling vs compartment thing which requires fine balance. I think v5.0 is the version with the most compartments AFAIK. But yeah, more compartments = less funneling and I like funneling :P

PS. Prepare to be barch'ed a lot if you are upgrading your splash damage.