How’s CWL treating everyone?

[PabloB]

Thanks Piper.
We haven’t done too bad Attacking but have been Obliterated on Defences.
Our Clan can field 4 TH13’s & the Weakest Clan we were up against had 8 - that’s just the look of the draw & no complaints about that.
Next Month is a fresh CWL & chance of redemption

Then next round you really need to plan to drop if you want to. Absolute minimum stars together everyone 8. Better still, one star and done. You'll get decent medals but have a better chance of being low. Or just keep plugging and upgrading.

[MyH4oBG]

Just report them and move on. Clan have been banned for collusion in such cirtcumstances.

Can't report someone who isn't violating any rules cuz there are no such rules as losing on purpose being punishable.
They just signup with a bunch of TH8-9 etc... cuz they can!

[Tannkk]

No possibility whatsoever they might even think about considering it.



Just report them and move on. Clan have been banned for collusion in such cirtcumstances.

Interesting you believe that there is no possibility whatsoever that might even consider it?? There is big money involved to get to the top of the ranking and to the world championship.
Does supercell really want the top clans to win in such a way that is not fair to the other clans? It goes against everything they say cwl represents

[Ajax]

Interesting you believe that there is no possibility whatsoever that might even consider it?? There is big money involved to get to the top of the ranking and to the world championship.
Does supercell really want the top clans to win in such a way that is not fair to the other clans? It goes against everything they say cwl represents

No, they don't. And they ban clans they catch colluding to alter the results.

Which is as it should be.

But that doesn't mean it would be remotely acceptable to tell clans they are only allowed to use max TH13s in Champs 1. And nor would doing so make the slightest difference to the collusion scenario. They throw wars by making their bases easy. It isn't hard to do that, even at TH13.

[Ajax]

Can't report someone who isn't violating any rules cuz there are no such rules as losing on purpose being punishable.
They just signup with a bunch of TH8-9 etc... cuz they can!

If you think they aren't breaking any rules, then what is your issue?

But you are wrong to believe that. They are, of course, almost certainly breaking the rules, although just knowing that one war was 45-44 doesn't tell us much. If the two clans weren't gettjng close to that against others, nor being hit for that many, then it does - they are almost certainly colluding, and that is most certainly against the rules.

As I said, report the two clans for suspected collusion. SC will investigate, and if they are convinced, wil, probably ban both clans.

[Klavious]

Well D7 we should get destroyed but somehow this clan is 4th place despite being the 2nd heaviest clan by a wide margin so we’ll see maybe we can compete with them. Win or lose looks like we’re headed for 2nd place, no promotion but also no complaints.

[2222]

Its our second season in Ch3. First season we had an 8 group. Finished 3rd 258stars.

This season is a 6 group. We're on day 5, the final day.

Theres a LOT more completely maxed 13s this time round. Skill wise I'd say its about the same as last season

Interesting. We are trying to get to C3. We won't make it this season. We keep finishing close, but not first. We do find the clan(s) above us are usually clans with #15 weighing as much as our #7 or so. Soon we will make it to C3 and get destroyed I'm sure. That seems to happen when going up a level, other than of course there is luck in the group you get placed in.

Can't report someone who isn't violating any rules cuz there are no such rules as losing on purpose being punishable.
They just signup with a bunch of TH8-9 etc... cuz they can!

If they just signed up with th8-9 and used that for all of the wars, you are correct, that isn't a rule violation and there is nothing to report. However, if they put a bunch of th8-9 into one war to let one clan get a huge score, that is collusion and that is a violation.

[Rak2180]

If you think they aren't breaking any rules, then what is your issue?

But you are wrong to believe that. They are, of course, almost certainly breaking the rules, although just knowing that one war was 45-44 doesn't tell us much. If the two clans weren't gettjng close to that against others, nor being hit for that many, then it does - they are almost certainly colluding, and that is most certainly against the rules.

As I said, report the two clans for suspected collusion. SC will investigate, and if they are convinced, wil, probably ban both clans.

Actually having a main roster of only lower TH bases is not collusion.The clans who put only lower bases in all wars aren't really favouring just one clan but all of the clans in the group.
They are giving away free 15 triples for all other clans in the group and it's not breaking any rule.

But that doesn't mean it would be remotely acceptable to tell clans they are only allowed to use max TH13s in Champs 1. And nor would doing so make the slightest difference to the collusion scenario. They throw wars by making their bases easy. It isn't hard to do that, even at TH13.

Not necessarily max TH13 but telling clans to have least 15 TH13s in the main roster in CH1 should be fine.I think the clan who start Ch1 CWL with lower TH bases may have lost thier main members and they are't aware about there being no matchmaking in CWL.
There's a leaderboard and some clans facing easier matchups due to lower TH bases in their group is not fair for others.

[joshsgrandad]

Actually having a main roster of only lower TH bases is not collusion.The clans who put only lower bases in all wars aren't really favouring just one clan but all of the clans in the group.
They are giving away free 15 triples for all other clans in the group and it's not breaking any rule.

Not necessarily max TH13 but telling clans to have least 15 TH13s in the main roster in CH1 should be fine.I think the clan who start Ch1 CWL with lower TH bases may have lost thier main members and they are't aware about there being no matchmaking in CWL.
There's a leaderboard and some clans facing easier matchups due to lower TH bases in their group is not fair for others.

Oh how I wished i could find that post from long ago, when Darian commented that 5 million people compete in CWL..

Champ 1 is where the elite clans are, but I think its best that those talented guys and gals dismiss the elitist attitude.. It isnt needed.

The format is unweighted and random matching within the tier..
Surely that applies to any clan in any tier, and just because we are talking about the pinnacle whereby those competitors have a realistic chance of progressing to the play offs, that shouldnt qualify for a change to the fundamental rules of cwl.

A clan that sandbags Champ 1 may well gain more exposure due to more focus on the top tier, but below that top tier, there are many clans striving to reach that level that are similarly affected by the actions of someone else..
Why should there be any difference between said sandbagging in any tier?

If they introduce specified break downs in one tier, then fairness suggests they should do likewise across the board..
Then where would that leave us?..
I could say luck of the draw in these cases, and it would be widely accepted if we were talking middle tiers..

I am pretty confident that many of the usual suspects will be present once things boil down to the finals..
These tanking clans appear to me to be simply prickling the ego's of folk whom think they should be above what is common place for anyone else in cwl..

To add.. I cant for the life of me understand why a clan would work so hard to reach the top tier of the format, then simply throw it all away by not even giving it a go.

[Tannkk]

Oh how I wished i could find that post from long ago, when Darian commented that 5 million people compete in CWL..

Champ 1 is where the elite clans are, but I think its best that those talented guys and gals dismiss the elitist attitude.. It isnt needed.

The format is unweighted and random matching within the tier..
Surely that applies to any clan in any tier, and just because we are talking about the pinnacle whereby those competitors have a realistic chance of progressing to the play offs, that shouldnt qualify for a change to the fundamental rules of cwl.

A clan that sandbags Champ 1 may well gain more exposure due to more focus on the top tier, but below that top tier, there are many clans striving to reach that level that are similarly affected by the actions of someone else..
Why should there be any difference between said sandbagging in any tier?

If they introduce specified break downs in one tier, then fairness suggests they should do likewise across the board..
Then where would that leave us?..
I could say luck of the draw in these cases, and it would be widely accepted if we were talking middle tiers..

I am pretty confident that many of the usual suspects will be present once things boil down to the finals..
These tanking clans appear to me to be simply prickling the ego's of folk whom think they should be above what is common place for anyone else in cwl..

To add.. I cant for the life of me understand why a clan would work so hard to reach the top tier of the format, then simply throw it all away by not even giving it a go.

The issue is in champs 1 supercell has brought in the world championship or whatever it is called solely based on cwl rankings. This also has serious real money involved. Having a sandbagging clan In your group gives a huge advantage And with real money and the chance to go to Poland involved does seem like something supercell should fix.
There is no chance of a clan getting to champs 1 without all th13s so I don’t see the issue really