How’s CWL treating everyone?

[Ajax]

I was most definitely not talking about 44-45 collision matches. Have absolutely no clue how'd you got that impression.

I got that impression from the fact you stated it in this post https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...1#post12557014

I was talking specifically about the clans that signup in Ch1 with lower THs and proceed to get annihilated and thus giving unfair advantage to those lucky ones to get matched with them.
As I stated they are not breaking any rules per se, but that's only cuz SC hasn't enforced such a rule... And losing on purpose is allowed.

You didn't mention clans signing up with lower TH in the post that started this branch of the discussion. You DID mention 44-45 results.

It is hardly surprising I thought that was what you were talking about.

The "lower TH" thing was only brought in later.

[joshsgrandad]

We finished 3rd in Ch1 with (4W 3L).Could have been 2nd as 2nd place clan was just 1star above us even though they had 5 wins to our 4.
I had a poor CWL personally with offense with Only 5/21 triples (lots of time fails though).But I am happy with my defense as one of the base which I designed got 1 starred 4/7 times and 2starred other other 3 times.Another base of mine got 1starred 2/6 times wasn't tripled even once.
It was a learning experience for us in round 6 when we faced the top clan,they were insanely good and did some godly attacks.They ended up with 345 stars.Pretty sure they will be at the Top in Ch1 leaderboard.Though I am happy that they 1 starred two of my bases.One of the 1star was a 50% 1 star meaning it could have been a 0star as well.

Sounds like a nice solid season.. Congrats with the base designs..

[Beefenclog42]

So do you think clan with TH9-10 even stand a chance for every player to get minimum 8stars when they face max th13s for maxmimum medals?
They will get more medals if they do CWL in a lower league.They won't learn anything by competing against the best with Th9-10s.Nothing to gain for them.



I didn't necessarily say TH13s have to be completely maxed.
As for when TH14 is relased, they could have old minimum TH13 rule until some months (6-7 maybe) have passed before make it all TH14.

Correct that CWL is apparently designed to find the best of the best. So my question is why is ANY clan that is not comprising a full, max th13 roster even allowed to enter?

[Ajax]

Correct that CWL is apparently designed to find the best of the best. So my question is why is ANY clan that is not comprising a full, max th13 roster even allowed to enter?

Because there is no valid reason why they shouldn't.

[Beefenclog42]

Because there is no valid reason why they shouldn't.

Valid reason would be that if you are th12 or lower you are obviously not going to be the best of the best and you are not going to Poland? Maybe make cwl an elitist, competitive game mode similar to legends league and find an alternate way to disperse medals for the average joe?

[Rak2180]

Sounds like a nice solid season.. Congrats with the base designs..

Thx .It's certainly is an improvement from last season when we finished 5th.

Correct that CWL is apparently designed to find the best of the best. So my question is why is ANY clan that is not comprising a full, max th13 roster even allowed to enter?

Only CWL in Champs in more skill based where almost every clan (aside from few tanking) has strong TH13 lineup.
In rest of the tiers it's more of progression based which encourage players to progress.I like this current system and prefer it to stay the same with some changes in Ch1 regarding tanking clans.

Valid reason would be that if you are th12 or lower you are obviously not going to be the best of the best and you are not going to Poland? Maybe make cwl an elitist, competitive game mode similar to legends league and find an alternate way to disperse medals for the average joe?

Yes,Th12s and lowers cannot be the best of the best,hence a clan with TH12 or lower line up cannot really reach Champs league.
It's already similar to how trophies work with only Strong TH13s being able to stay in legends and compete there just like Champs CWL.
With lower leagues where lower Th guys stays like lower league CWL.

[MyH4oBG]

You didn't mention clans signing up with lower TH in the post that started this branch of the discussion. You DID mention 44-45 results.

It is hardly surprising I thought that was what you were talking about.

The "lower TH" thing was only brought in later.

"Seeing those 44-45* results just cuz some clans throw every time is pretty stupid. "

Ya, I guess you could say I mean 44-45 if there wasn't a 2nd part to the sentence?!
You can't throw and get a 44-45 results can you now? Obviously meant clans winning wars with 44-45* in offense cuz the other clan is running a joke breakdown.
But whateva.

[2222]

So my conclusion is that this clan is simply tanking the league..
Unfortunate for others at the most competitive tier, but simply another day at the office for many.

It is different in C1 than it is in any other league, though. A clan that tanks every war, giving up 45 stars each war, doesn't negatively impact anyone in any other league level below C1 (other than having one boring war) because everyone in the group of 8 gets the same easy win and it impacts no other groups of 8. However, in Champs1 it does impact the other groups of 8 who didn't get the advantage of an easy 45 stars. When comparing the top clans of all of the Champs1 groups of 8, it matters when some of them get an easy 45 stars.

Because there is no valid reason why they shouldn't.

I agree with you in response to the particular post which referenced all max th13s. There is no valid reason at all to limit C1 to all max th13s. In fact, there are likely many clans in C1 right now that aren't truly fully maxed. However, there are valid reasons to not let a clan in C1 compete with a th8s. It negatively impacts the competition as noted in my post above (unlike at other CWL league levels).

I'm not sure how it would be enforced, though. I do like the idea from Onyx that a clan without 15 th13s (would get put into C2 rather than C1). That would stop some of this, but a clan with 15 th13s could still put in a bunch of lower halls if their intent was to mess with the system. Maybe that isn't usually the intent.

[joshsgrandad]

It is different in C1 than it is in any other league, though. A clan that tanks every war, giving up 45 stars each war, doesn't negatively impact anyone in any other league level below C1 (other than having one boring war) because everyone in the group of 8 gets the same easy win and it impacts no other groups of 8. However, in Champs1 it does impact the other groups of 8 who didn't get the advantage of an easy 45 stars. When comparing the top clans of all of the Champs1 groups of 8, it matters when some of them get an easy 45 stars.

Yeah, I get that.. And of course now get where Rak was coming from..
Fair comment

[Ajax]

Valid reason would be that if you are th12 or lower you are obviously not going to be the best of the best and you are not going to Poland? Maybe make cwl an elitist, competitive game mode similar to legends league and find an alternate way to disperse medals for the average joe?

That is not a reason, never mind a valid one.