How’s CWL treating everyone?

[PabloB]

We finished 7th & got Relegated with 0 Wins & 7 Loses. We’ve lost a few “Heavy Hitters” lately & the hole left is actually bigger than we thought. Time to rebuild before June

[MyH4oBG]

We actually won our group in Champ 1 a round in advance. 6-0 and everyone else already has alteast 2 losses.
So the new goal is the perfect and 300 stars total which ain't that impressive in the grand scheme of things but is on a smaller personal scale.

[joshsgrandad]

Elitist attitude?

Because there is an official leaderboard for Champs 1.

Sure,if there's an offical leaderboard for all tiers.



Maybe the leader of that Ch1 clan that fielded lower Th players didn't know how CWL matchmaking works and there's no weight based matchmaking in CWL.

With greatest respect, I follow and enjoy your posts..

But.. Your reply above to Ajax suggesting a clan should disband rather than be allowed to participate on your hallowed ground is indeed elitist..
i disagree with anyones choice to purposely set out to sandbag in any tier level, although I can often understand why they do it..
But I think one promotes on merit, and should demote on merit.

There are "rules" in place for the format..
The whole tier system, and ability to guarantee anyone that wishes to play can, revolves around the fact there are no weight or build restrictions in place in cwl.

SC decided that the leaderboard will stop once you fall below C1..
I can understand that.. Although there are many that probably wonder how they rank compared to others, there wouldnt really be much to gain by extending it.
I also understand they use the standings for ESL qualifiers..

I could understand the request to change the most fundamental rule if everybody in C1 were actively pushing to get to the qualifiers, but we already seen the evidence in previous threads they are not.. Lots of invites get turned down for one reason or another..

So I feel its best to leave the rules as they are, and we can agree that your talent ranks amongst the best players in the world..
Sandbaggers tend to ruin the game for many players at many levels.. Welcome to the jungle (although they kept me artificially in the wrong tier for some time)

As for a clan leader in C1 not knowing about the most basic of the cwl requirements.. Really mate?.. lol

[joshsgrandad]

We actually won our group in Champ 1 a round in advance. 6-0 and everyone else already has alteast 2 losses.
So the new goal is the perfect and 300 stars total which ain't that impressive in the grand scheme of things but is on a smaller personal scale.

On the contrary mate.. Wow, really well done and congrats to you and your guys..

[Rak2180]

This is nonsensical.s

It doesn't matter what state a clan is currently in. If they're in Champs1, they're there on merit & should be allowed to spin; irrespective of their current lineup. Putting artificial barriers in just makes a mockery of the ladder system.

So do you think clan with TH9-10 even stand a chance for every player to get minimum 8stars when they face max th13s for maxmimum medals?
They will get more medals if they do CWL in a lower league.They won't learn anything by competing against the best with Th9-10s.Nothing to gain for them.

What happens when TH14 arrives? Are you going to suggest a time limit for the entire roster to upgrade? Do they have to sit out until maxed at any future TH level?

I didn't necessarily say TH13s have to be completely maxed.
As for when TH14 is relased, they could have old minimum TH13 rule until some months (6-7 maybe) have passed before make it all TH14.

[Rak2180]

But.. Your reply above to Ajax suggesting a clan should disband rather than be allowed to participate on your hallowed ground is indeed elitist..

Clan won't have to disband.It's just a temporary shift to another clan for a week.
Most Champs clan where only 15 can do CWL, divide into multiple clans so everyone can take part in CWL.So you saying that those who leave the clan just for doing CWL actually leave the clan for good?

As for a clan leader in C1 not knowing about the most basic of the cwl requirements.. Really mate?.. lol

Though very unlikely,its possible.
If the leader had always done CWL with all th13s in champs, before,then it's possible that he may not have faced any mismatches earlier.
Hence he may have thought that there's weight based matches in CWL.

[PabloB]

Our Clan loses quite a few Members every Month to other Clans for CWL & others Come In - 4 Clans in an Alliance & we Mix and Match for Events including CWL so we have the Best Chance but also those that wish to take part can if possible.

[QUOTE=Rak2180;12558603]Clan won't have to disband.It's just a temporary shift to another clan for a week.
Most Champs clan where only 15 can do CWL, divide into multiple clans so everyone can take part in CWL.So you saying that those who leave the clan just for doing CWL actually leave the clan for good?

[joshsgrandad]

Clan won't have to disband.It's just a temporary shift to another clan for a week.
Most Champs clan where only 15 can do CWL, divide into multiple clans so everyone can take part in CWL.So you saying that those who leave the clan just for doing CWL actually leave the clan for good?


Though very unlikely,its possible.
If the leader had always done CWL with all th13s in champs, before,then it's possible that he may not have faced any mismatches earlier.
Hence he may have thought that there's weight based matches in CWL.

Nope.. Not saying they should disband for good.. not saying they should disband at all.. you are..

I do agree a 9 or a 10 would have nothing to gain by being involved..
i also agree, or think myself, that the clan could simply sit out if something has shifted internally..
So my conclusion is that this clan is simply tanking the league..
Unfortunate for others at the most competitive tier, but simply another day at the office for many.

So far as leadership being naive.. sure, anything is possible..
But at the top, one would at least expect the captain of the ship to know which port he just sailed from.

[Rak2180]

We finished 3rd in Ch1 with (4W 3L).Could have been 2nd as 2nd place clan was just 1star above us even though they had 5 wins to our 4.
I had a poor CWL personally with offense with Only 5/21 triples (lots of time fails though).But I am happy with my defense as one of the base which I designed got 1 starred 4/7 times and 2starred other other 3 times.Another base of mine got 1starred 2/6 times wasn't tripled even once.
It was a learning experience for us in round 6 when we faced the top clan,they were insanely good and did some godly attacks.They ended up with 345 stars.Pretty sure they will be at the Top in Ch1 leaderboard.Though I am happy that they 1 starred two of my bases.One of the 1star was a 50% 1 star meaning it could have been a 0star as well.

[OnyxDS]

Nobody has suggested it might be.
That isn't the situation the OP was talking about.

He was talking about where one war is 44-45 and all the others are more "normal" scores.

Apparently it was what OP was talking about

I was most definitely not talking about 44-45 collision matches. Have absolutely no clue how'd you got that impression.

But even if it wasn't, those 45s dominate the leaderboard. At the end of day 6, of the top 10, 6 of them have faced tanking clans giving away 45* days, some of those 6 have done so twice. Of the other 4 clans 3 of them are regular visitors to Poland and indeed the grand final - but they are barely scraping into the top 10 below the clans getting freebies.

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Not necessarily max TH13 but telling clans to have least 15 TH13s in the main roster in CH1 should be fine.

It would absolutely NOT be fine. Totally unacceptable IMV for SC to limit what roster you can use overall.

And with your "fine" idea, they would be stuffed. In order to ever play CWL again they would have to either disband and start a new clan, or wait until the members they have left all reach TH13, however long that might take.

You can't get yourself demoted if you can't take part.

It's hardly difficult to solve. If a clan starts CWL search in Ch1 and doesn't have 15 TH13s on the weekly roster simply enter them into the Ch2 search. SC have placed clans in leagues other than their current one before (possibly not at search time - it may have been a forced demotion imposed at some other time)

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This is nonsensical.

It doesn't matter what state a clan is currently in. If they're in Champs1, they're there on merit & should be allowed to spin; irrespective of their current lineup. Putting artificial barriers in just makes a mockery of the ladder system.

They are not there on merit with a bunch of TH10s. To qualify for Ch1 with 15 maxed TH13s and then substitute in a completely different line-up, say all TH10s (while the TH13s rack up medals in a different clan) is what is making a mockery of the system.

Ch2 and Ch3 are also all TH13. I think our second clan in Master 1 faced entirely (non-rushed, but non-max) TH13 this time. There's simply no place at the moment. There really is no place for TH9s and TH10s being substituted in and giving away free points in a league with a million pound prize pool