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    Clan Games

    I had suggestions about clan games...
    Our clan usually always gets all the points of the clan games...
    But we always have a big problem with clan games , Some of my clanmates are very active, so some people abuse this!
    They wait for us to get the full score, and then abuse the effort of us by choosing the simplest challenge
    If you let leaders or co-leaders just like members of the clan war league sign up for clan games, there will never be such a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by MORTINATOR View Post
    I had suggestions about clan games...
    Our clan usually always gets all the points of the clan games...
    But we always have a big problem with clan games , Some of my clanmates are very active, so some people abuse this!
    They wait for us to get the full score, and then abuse the effort of us by choosing the simplest challenge
    If you let leaders or co-leaders just like members of the clan war league sign up for clan games, there will never be such a problem
    You want to be able to exclude people from taking part in your clan games? If they do it repeatedly and it is a problem for you, why not just kick them out of the clan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2222 View Post
    You want to be able to exclude people from taking part in your clan games? If they do it repeatedly and it is a problem for you, why not just kick them out of the clan?
    I was guessing you were going to say this, but maybe you yourself may not realize how difficult and time-consuming it's to find new members who can help the clan wars.
    On the other hand, this is just a sign-up by leader and co-leaders, not banning members from participating in clan games!!! Just like signing up in clan wars or clan war league

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    Quote Originally Posted by MORTINATOR View Post
    I was guessing you were going to say this, but maybe you yourself may not realize how difficult and time-consuming it's to find new members who can help the clan wars.
    On the other hand, this is just a sign-up by leader and co-leaders, not banning members from participating in clan games!!! Just like signing up in clan wars or clan war league
    But why would you want to exclude people from clan games? That decreases the chances of you reaching max tier by removing players who could have otherwise earned points for you, even if they are small amounts. Isn't any points earned better than no points earned?

    Also if your clan is getting max points then why does it matter if some players do only a few tasks? I could understand your frustrations IF your clan wasn't getting max points, but since you are, why is it an issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MORTINATOR View Post
    I was guessing you were going to say this, but maybe you yourself may not realize how difficult and time-consuming it's to find new members who can help the clan wars.
    On the other hand, this is just a sign-up by leader and co-leaders, not banning members from participating in clan games!!! Just like signing up in clan wars or clan war league
    It is difficult, as it should be. Members, not Clans, for the most part have the upper hand. For majority of clans, a player can find a new clan much easier, and quicker, that the clan can find a suitable replacement player. Think of clans like a small business. You are in direct competition with all like businesses competing for customers. The strong survive, the weak fade away. If you cannot provide me the services that I seek, I will simply take my business elsewhere!

    Now, how do you think how those players you mentioned would respond? I project it would be "If you do not place me on the roster, then I will simply leave and go somewhere else where they will include me".
    Last edited by rowman; 4 Weeks Ago at 01:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MORTINATOR View Post
    I was guessing you were going to say this, but maybe you yourself may not realize how difficult and time-consuming it's to find new members who can help the clan wars.
    On the other hand, this is just a sign-up by leader and co-leaders, not banning members from participating in clan games!!! Just like signing up in clan wars or clan war league
    I built a brand new clan up to a level 17 clan with 500 wins and a current war log with only 3 losses. We max out clan games within a couple days. We are usually at 49-50 members, though many of those are mini accounts. I know how difficult it can be. Which is exactly why you should not exclude those valuable members from your clan games. If you have some people in your clan that are war specialists that help you win wars, that is more valuable than just doing clan games points. Not everyone in the clan has to contribute in every way, they just have to contribute enough that you don't have better options. If you don't have better options, keep them and let them get their clan games rewards (though remind all they get an extra reward if they hit 4000 points).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix1027 View Post
    But why would you want to exclude people from clan games? That decreases the chances of you reaching max tier by removing players who could have otherwise earned points for you, even if they are small amounts. Isn't any points earned better than no points earned?

    Also if your clan is getting max points then why does it matter if some players do only a few tasks? I could understand your frustrations IF your clan wasn't getting max points, but since you are, why is it an issue?
    No no no, you didn't understand what I meant, I don't want to ban people from clan games at all.
    Just imagine this situation, in all the clans there are people who are completely active, ordinary, inactive, lazy and maybe abuser.
    We just want to filter out the abusers so that the active people don't get frustrated. You're right, everyone is involved in reaching the max tier, from the most active members of the clan to even the most lazy because they even help the clan, but not the abusers. Determining who is trying and who is abusing is quite clear.
    This chance will not be taken from even the most lazy member of the clan because he is trying his best.
    This request is only for the registration of useful clan members in clan games, just like what happens in clan war league or clan wars.

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    “Temporarily banning” members from Clan Games is a not a good way to deal with the problem OP is describing. The mechanism to deal with someone “abusing” your clan is a kick and/or a report if the person is being disruptive in other ways. Allowing clan leaders to preclude members from clan games can lead to abuse from a different perspective. Clan Games are a team effort from the player who clears five obstacles for 50 points to the player stopping at 4000 points only because that’s the limit. The only time I would see a problem is if you don’t max games as a whole, but excluding lower-scoring players is counterproductive since it would lead to a lower total score. With the inclusion of additional rewards, active Clan Gamers get more rewards, so if others want to scrape by and not be able to pick two tier 6 prizes, that’s a personal choice (as long as Games are maxed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MORTINATOR View Post
    No no no, you didn't understand what I meant, I don't want to ban people from clan games at all.
    Just imagine this situation, in all the clans there are people who are completely active, ordinary, inactive, lazy and maybe abuser.
    We just want to filter out the abusers so that the active people don't get frustrated. You're right, everyone is involved in reaching the max tier, from the most active members of the clan to even the most lazy because they even help the clan, but not the abusers. Determining who is trying and who is abusing is quite clear.
    This chance will not be taken from even the most lazy member of the clan because he is trying his best.
    This request is only for the registration of useful clan members in clan games, just like what happens in clan war league or clan wars.
    I still don't understand what you mean. You want to be able to exclude the "abuser" from the clan games or not? In clan war leagues and clan wars you decide who is going to take part. You exclude the rest. So, that is what you are saying you want to do in clan games too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rowman View Post
    It is difficult, as it should be. Members, not Clans, for the most part have the upper hand. For majority of clans, a player can find a new clan much easier, and quicker, that the clan can find a suitable replacement player. Think of clans like a small business. You are in direct competition with all like businesses competing for customers. The strong survive, the weak fade away. If you cannot provide me the services that I seek, I will simply take my business elsewhere!

    Now, how do you think how those players you mentioned would respond? I project it would be "If you do not place me on the roster, then I will simply leave and go somewhere else where they will include me".
    I think you analyzed the subject in the best way possible. I gladly accept all that you said but in this case why shouldn't active players be discouraged???
    They do their best and are at the service of the clan all the time, while the abusers take advantage of the situation.
    We are looking for a solution to get them involved in clan games like others. My friends and I have been thinking about this for a long time, and In our opinion, the best solution is to register people in clan games is just like the clan war league, so they will all be motivated to try harder.

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