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    Interesting thread but not sure how it ended up with a Games specialist and a Moderator trying to outgoogle each other on aspects of the Law of Defamation. What next a google competition on quantum mechanics.

    Anyway I’m sure most courts would be sympathetic to ‘Deeznuts’ spending 75k to bring a case citing serious harm to their reputation, even though no one knows who they are for their reputation to have suffered.
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    Loot difficulty has gone up again today by 2.5% Why do they keep increasing the loot difficulty this makes the game not worth playing and before you all say there is more inactive bases and less active players it still shouldn't be a 2.5% increase in difficulty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshsgrandad View Post
    Nice intervention jusMe..
    Am always interested when SC appear to take action on fair play issues..

    Unfortunately, the wigs came out and everything went south...
    Moving on.
    I didn't say, nor did I mean, that the thread 'had gone south' or anything ... it just was surprising to say the least that the thread was left up, AND in general, and seeing the course it's taken ... was just ... something that isn't allowed to happen often

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajax View Post
    Yes, I accept I have been using the word in the less technical sense of just meaning "damaging to the reputation"

    But it isn't quite the same as saying they only have to allege defamation then the respondent (not defendant, that term is only for criminal cases) has to show it wasn't. The complainant does have to show that the statement was damaging to their reputation.



    This us generally true in the UK too, but theee are situations, even in very serious criminal matters where the byrden of proof can be reversed if the respondant/defendant is relying on a particular defence.

    To take the most serious posdible if those, insanity can be a defense to a charge of murder. But the onus us on the defence to show the defendant was insane.

    In most criminal offences other than the most serious, "acting under duress" is a defence, but once again, the onus is on the defence to show that they were doing so. In all cases wher the burden if proof is reversed, however, the defendant only needs to show on balance if probabilities, rather than boyond reasonable doubt.
    The "defense" of insanity only comes after (is only needed if) the murder is first proven. That was my point. In the US you'd have to prove defamation, which includes the element of the false statement. I learned from you today that the UK is much different.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rst View Post
    Interesting thread but not sure how it ended up with a Games specialist and a Moderator trying to outgoogle each other on aspects of the Law of Defamation.
    I wasn't using google other than to pull up a quick link to the definition of defamation later in the conversation. Perhaps I should have, so I could have quickly learned the UK is much different than the USA. In the USA you can't just allege defamation and show only damages, because that is only one element of defamation in the USA. In the USA you have to show/prove the other element too, which is the false statement made that caused the damages.

    Either way, it was interesting to me and I learned something. That's a pretty good combination. Sorry if it bored everyone else!

    As for the top player profiles, I'll be interested to see if any more disappear.

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    I find the conversation fascinating and interesting where there's a thread drift.

    Thank you everyone for your participation and please carry on.
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    Is a facetious thread? All them top people are still there? Am I missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostone View Post
    Is a facetious thread? All them top people are still there? Am I missing something?
    OP was referencing the top accounts from last season, not this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2222 View Post
    OP was referencing the top accounts from last season, not this season.
    Maybe I need to look closer, because all them poeple, (we all know who they are) seem to still be there?

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    My apologies Ajax. That part of my comment was entiely directed to those individuals who were complainig this thread properly belonged in the bug thread. I did not mean to comment on the actions of anyone.

    To those who are still complaining the process is too slow, there may be much to unwind that we players are not fully aware of. Darian did post the question for those who claimed nothing was being done....while saying nothing, as seems fitting about the matter.

    But I think we can all clearly see that steps are now being taken. For me that is enough, to know the problem is being worked. If the profile is gone I do believe the account is gone, for those with visable villages that might mean something else.

    I seemed to have missed the back and forth about defamation, but since most of us are anonymous on these forums...no Court in a Common Law country would hear such a case. You have to prove actual harm to yourself, there is no case law regarding online identitity, yet...and while it might be interesting to see someone try to bring a case like that, I am sure nobody on the forums has a case or wants to be a test case. Perhaps it might be a curious read to see the exchange though.
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    Am I the only one who finds all the "Lord Valdemort, he-who-shall-not-be-named" obfuscation to be tiresome.

    Without a frank discussion of what the accusations are, I find it difficult to understand the nature of the crime.

    For example, many seem outraged to learn that players are changing their names for money. But how is the name change illegal? How does it benefit a top player? Sorry, discussing it is a violation of forum rules.
    I truly believe the recruitment tool will improve over time. Please read my posts on this topic not as complaints, but as a polite request for improvement. Often I include a suggestion, or an observation of an existing function that could improve the tool.
    Before we throw the baby out with the bath, I would like to remind you that recruiting in global was no picnic either. Mostly hoppers, very few serious players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2222 View Post
    You keep arguing in circles when you say the victim has to prove it was defamatory. Defamatory means it was false and caused damages. So, yes, I agree they have to prove it was defamatory, which means proving it was false and caused damages.
    So if I understand your terms for us law, do we agree that:
    If a content creator calls cheaters both Player X and Player Y and then, although some of the accounts supposely belonging to Player X get banned, the account of Player Y remains. Player Y can therefore sue the content creator for defamation. He will have to provide the published statement where he is called called a cheater by the content creator and then show that his account was indeed not banned ? Then it is up to the content creator to defend his statement to avoid condemnation.

    Is that correct ?

    Quote Originally Posted by JusMe View Post
    Talking about a thread going off the rails ...
    I guess I'm not the only one with 6 builders busy but I also learned a bit about us laws. You can be glad the discussion still didn't arrive on the question of the location from where the supposed calumny is posted/read.

    Quote Originally Posted by PapaTroll View Post
    For example, many seem outraged to learn that players are changing their names for money. But how is the name change illegal?
    And also how sure can we be these name were changed for money ? Because one player said it ?
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