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    No more players from Vietnam?

    Found an interesting notice. I had played with several players from Vietnam in the past in former neighborhoods that was in. So sad for those players that the game suddenly went away.

    Why was supercell discontinued in Vietnam?

    Because of local regulatory issues we have decided to discontinue offering our games in the Vietnamese Google Play and Apple App Store. This means that our players in Vietnam will no longer be able to play our games.Jul 4, 2019

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    I doubt it, because almost every derby we play vs NH’s from Vietnam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtx725 View Post
    ...Because of local regulatory issues we have decided to discontinue offering our games in the Vietnamese Google Play and Apple App Store. This means that our players in Vietnam will no longer be able to play our games.Jul 4, 2019
    Here's an article written by Chau An of VN Express International on July 19, 2019 which I'll excerpt:

    "Vietnamese authorities have been working with Apple, Google and Facebook to remove unauthorized online games providing cross-border services.

    Quang Tu Do, deputy head of the Authority of Broadcasting and Electronic Information under the Ministry of Information and Communications, said on Tuesday his agency had found many games downloaded in Vietnam through Apple's App Store and Google Play that violated the country's regulations.

    Many were found contain elements of gambling, violence, profanity or distortion of Vietnamese history, while others were published without authorization. The information ministry has therefore been working with Google, Apple and Facebook to block, take down or stop ad monetization for these games. Since 2017, these efforts have led to 142 illegal games being removed from App Store and Google Play in Vietnam...

    According to Vietnam's law regulations, a video game in which multiple players interact with each other simultaneously through the game's server must be granted a license for providing games services and have its content approved before it can be published in Vietnam.

    'Games being provided on the Vietnamese market must be licensed, we don't accept cross-border games that have players and generate revenue in Vietnam without permission,' Do said.

    In order to have their games licensed, foreign companies must either collaborate with Vietnamese companies and have their Vietnamese partners carry out the procedures or establish a branch and representative office in Vietnam in which the foreign company's capital contribution must not exceed 49 percent..."

    https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/14...shGuENFr8eKhnI

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    Since Hayday doesnt "contain elements of gambling, violence, profanity or distortion of Vietnamese history", it's probably the "generate revenue in Vietnam without permission" bit. Looks like Vietnamese users wont be seeing a lot of games in their playstore until they work out some form of taxation system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benjamin9632 View Post
    Since Hayday doesnt "contain elements of gambling, violence, profanity or distortion of Vietnamese history", it's probably the "generate revenue in Vietnam without permission" bit. Looks like Vietnamese users wont be seeing a lot of games in their playstore until they work out some form of taxation system.
    Your post raises three discussion points which I haven't considered so thank you Benjamin9632. Here are my speculations.

    Firstly, I don't know how long the Vietnamese regulators have been playing the game. Is it possible that they reached the conclusion that the Derby contains "elements of gambling" despite the clever way the developers didn't try to disguise the Grand Hay Day Casino and Resort but instead put it in plain sight? In real life, people go to the race track to gamble on horses. But in HD, the developers use horses to represent the players and when they win and don't like their prizes, they may use real monies to buy diamonds to shuffle the prizes to get the rare items or beautiful decorations. The Vietnamese regulators may interpret this derby feature as similar to playing the roulette, a game played by gamblers at a casino. Maybe they believe that HD doesn't "contain elements of gambling", but I can't rule out the possibility at this time.

    Secondly, the VN Express International article reported that "in 2018, a total of 175 online games were licensed for publishing in Vietnam, 95 percent of which were from China". China and Vietnam must have a great trade relationship so Chinese game companies understand the local regulations and are able to be in full compliance while Supercell seemed unwilling or unable to? Clearly, I'm missing a key piece of the puzzle which brings us to the third discussion point.

    Supercell is the subsidiary of Tencent, a Chinese multinational conglomerate and the world's largest gaming company. Tencent knows the Asian market well including how to address local regulatory issues which seemed so challenging to Supercell in the Vietnamese market that they chose to exit the market. I'm wondering about the communication between the parent company and its subsidiary. Maybe Tencent reminded Supercell of their agreement that Supercell would remain operationally independent after being acquired by Tencent so Supercell must address any local regulatory issues on its own and must not seek assistance from Tencent.

    If so, it's sad news for the Vietnamese who would like to play Supercell games, but in the long run, it's great news for the rest of us players because Supercell remains independent to follow its creative vision without interference from its parent company.

    Again, the above are my speculations. I write them to entertain myself so please use them for entertainment purposes only.


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