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    Just glancing at a few of these posts. Having been playing the game & lurking on the forums for years, I have one thought that keeps running through my head about the idea that e-sports for a few are delaying content for the many.

    I’m sure someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the October update usually fairly minor in comparison to December. Halloween decor, QoL changes, maybe balancing. Same with Spring. Seems to me Summer and Winter are always the biggest ones, content-wise.

    Just my impression—someone else can link a table of update stats for the last seven years if you want to split hairs, lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MommySnooks View Post
    Just glancing at a few of these posts. Having been playing the game & lurking on the forums for years, I have one thought that keeps running through my head about the idea that e-sports for a few are delaying content for the many.

    I’m sure someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the October update usually fairly minor in comparison to December. Halloween decor, QoL changes, maybe balancing. Same with Spring. Seems to me Summer and Winter are always the biggest ones, content-wise.

    Just my impression—someone else can link a table of update stats for the last seven years if you want to split hairs, lol.
    I don't think you are wrong. I think some people have overreacted to the statement that they aren't adding a bunch of big new game-play content right before the ESL finals. Some seem to suggest the content is created and ready to go and SC is just holding it back when that is not the case.

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    As soon as they are saying "No major content before the World Champs is decided" then it is bad.

    Millions of players wait longer for new content so that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of players don't have to worry about new content added for the World Champs.

    I'll be honest, I have almost no interest in what's coming in this update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilISuppose View Post
    As soon as they are saying "No major content before the World Champs is decided" then it is bad.

    Millions of players wait longer for new content so that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of players don't have to worry about new content added for the World Champs.

    I'll be honest, I have almost no interest in what's coming in this update.
    They have not said they have new content ready that they are holding because of the ESL finals. I look at it this way, they had to work on the stuff in the October update and the stuff in the December update. It makes sense to do it in the order the selected due to the ESL finals even though I am max and wish I had the December stuff now. I could see being a bit irritated by that order, but I think that is different than how some are suggesting they have new content ready to go that they are holding until the ESL finals are over. Also, for all we know, the December update stuff would be coming in December even if there were no ESL finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilISuppose View Post
    As soon as they are saying "No major content before the World Champs is decided" then it is bad.

    Millions of players wait longer for new content so that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of players don't have to worry about new content added for the World Champs.

    I'll be honest, I have almost no interest in what's coming in this update.
    Assuming the december update is th13 or other content for max players, it is a fraction of a fraction of players that care whether it is october or december.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilISuppose View Post
    As soon as they are saying "No major content before the World Champs is decided" then it is bad.

    Millions of players wait longer for new content so that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of players don't have to worry about new content added for the World Champs.

    I'll be honest, I have almost no interest in what's coming in this update.
    I don't think millions of players are at max th12. And as long as they aren't, they have "new" content. The ones that are at max th12 are only a fraction of a fraction of the playerbase.

    The players who will compete in hamburg spend a lot of time practicing and even more time with building and testing bases.
    A sudden meta change would be like a kick in the face to them, as they have to build new bases and practice the new meta strategies.
    It's also not fair to the hundreds of thousands of viewers who will watch the Championship.

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    As soon as they are saying "No major content before the World Champs is decided" then it is bad.

    Millions of players wait longer for new content
    Do they? What makes you say that?

    Dp you have any evidence whatsoever that there would have been major content in this update? It would be unusual for the October update to have major content. The bigger one is usually December.

    so that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of players don't have to worry about new content added for the World Champs.
    That wouldn't really be true either. It isn't for the benefitof those players, it is for the benefit of the contest and the publicity it generates.

    I'll be honest, I have almost no interest in what's coming in this update.
    Very little of what has been announced interests me either, since I neveruseglobal, and our clan doesn't recruit. But that is just personal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajax View Post
    Dp you have any evidence whatsoever that there would have been major content in this update? It would be unusual for the October update to have major content. The bigger one is usually December.
    I can't find an October update from any previous year with NO content, so I'll stick with my previous comment.
    It's been a LONG time maxed now, opposition in Legends and in CWL suggests that's a pretty common state to be in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MommySnooks View Post
    Just glancing at a few of these posts. Having been playing the game & lurking on the forums for years, I have one thought that keeps running through my head about the idea that e-sports for a few are delaying content for the many.

    I’m sure someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the October update usually fairly minor in comparison to December. Halloween decor, QoL changes, maybe balancing. Same with Spring. Seems to me Summer and Winter are always the biggest ones, content-wise.

    Just my impression—someone else can link a table of update stats for the last seven years if you want to split hairs, lol.
    Always worth skimming through the 'Announcements' for details of previous updates etc. I often do this
    https://forum.supercell.com/forumdis...-Announcements

    To generalise however, October hasn't usually been a major new content update!

    Quote Originally Posted by PhilISuppose View Post
    I can't find an October update from any previous year with NO content, so I'll stick with my previous comment.
    It's been a LONG time maxed now, opposition in Legends and in CWL suggests that's a pretty common state to be in.
    Lets not forget that there was 2.5 years between TH11 and TH12.
    While the Design team and Darian have often posted that they wish to reduce this future 'New TH level' timeframe, that 2.5 years was real enough, which is why my main is still a mid TH12, and not a maxed one.
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