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    Question scCWL average TH breakdown

    Hi folks

    Wondering what people think the average TH breakdown is for different leagues:

    All Champions Leagues = 15 TH12s

    Masters 1 -
    Masters 2 -
    Masters 3 -

    Crystal 1 -
    Crystal 2 -
    Crystal 3 -

    Gold 1 -
    Gold 2 -
    Gold 3 -

    No point going lower as it seems very random.
    Thanks for anyone who has any info on this (I know there was a data mine post before 30v30s but this is now outdated)


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    Quote Originally Posted by andysedge View Post
    Hi folks

    Wondering what people think the average TH breakdown is for different leagues:

    All Champions Leagues = 15 TH12s

    Masters 1 - 14/1 or 15/0 usually. Top and middle usually are all Th12s. the lower end usually has 13/2, 14/1, or 15 if they are pretty bad attackers/layouts/miss attacks.
    Masters 2 - about 11/4 to 15/0.. top 1 or 2 spots are All Th12s that know how to attack and have decent bases and layouts, Middle is usually around 12/3 to 15 Th12s depending on their skills, how many attacks they missed etc but its usually around 13/2. Low end/relegated clans usually have less than 11/12 Th12s (often can have 1 or 2 Th10s/engineered Th11s), or they miss many attacks
    Masters 3 - I've seen anywhere from 8/7 to around 13/2. Top end usually has around 12/3 or more. Middle is around 10/5 or 11/4. Lower end is like 9/6 or below, often including some Th10s.

    Crystal 1 -
    Crystal 2 -
    Crystal 3 -

    Gold 1 -
    Gold 2 -
    Gold 3 -

    No point going lower as it seems very random.
    Thanks for anyone who has any info on this (I know there was a data mine post before 30v30s but this is now outdated)
    My clans mostly been in M2, a little while in M3. I Have a friends clan that been mostly in M1 but I've filled out some of the above for you. There are some cases where we seen like only 4 or 5 Th12s in M2 but I'm gonna miss them out, as an outlier.

    By the way, x/y means the clan has x Th12s, y Th11s
    Last edited by Oblivionn; August 21st, 2019 at 02:11 PM.

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    That is a great help, cheers chaps.


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    In my alliance I am looking to run the following:
    Champs 2 - all TH12
    Champs 3 - all TH12
    Masters 2 - all TH12
    Masters 3 - half 12 / half 11
    Crystal 3 - 5/20/5
    Gold 3 - all TH10s
    Silver 2 - half 9 / half 8 (or lower)

    Based on that anyone think I am way off?


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    Quote Originally Posted by andysedge View Post
    Hi folks

    Wondering what people think the average TH breakdown is for different leagues:

    All Champions Leagues = 15 TH12s

    Masters 1 -
    Masters 2 -
    Masters 3 -

    Crystal 1 -
    Crystal 2 -
    Crystal 3 -

    Gold 1 -
    Gold 2 -
    Gold 3 -

    No point going lower as it seems very random.
    Thanks for anyone who has any info on this (I know there was a data mine post before 30v30s but this is now outdated)
    Quote Originally Posted by andysedge View Post
    In my alliance I am looking to run the following:
    Champs 2 - all TH12
    Champs 3 - all TH12
    Masters 2 - all TH12
    Masters 3 - half 12 / half 11
    Crystal 3 - 5/20/5
    Gold 3 - all TH10s
    Silver 2 - half 9 / half 8 (or lower)

    Based on that anyone think I am way off?
    i think.. if you wish to push, you go in as heavy as possible.
    I think.. If you run that many tiers, you should already have a feel for the size of rosters contained within.
    I think.. Running Silver and below, you simply need guys that will show up in order to walk away with your league.
    I think.. The roster break downs within the middle tiers are too varied for anyone to confidently put numbers on rosters.
    I think.. Each tier is growing season on season, due to the accelerated upgrade speed within the game now.

    But I mainly think.. It doesnt really matter what size or what skill level is entered, since everyone will eventually settle into a comfortable tier, and gain growth rewards pertaining to that level...
    And fun is where you find it.
    Last edited by joshsgrandad; August 23rd, 2019 at 09:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andysedge View Post
    In my alliance I am looking to run the following:
    Champs 2 - all TH12
    Champs 3 - all TH12
    Masters 2 - all TH12
    Masters 3 - half 12 / half 11
    Crystal 3 - 5/20/5
    Gold 3 - all TH10s
    Silver 2 - half 9 / half 8 (or lower)

    Based on that anyone think I am way off?
    Ch1/2/3 is petty much based on skill and organization due to roster parity
    M2 with All Th12 you shouldn't be demoted. Definitely can stay in the league. If yous are organized enough, you have the potential to get to M1.
    M3 with half 11 half 12 (7/8 or 8/7 breakdown) you're on the lower end. It's doable but expect opponents with bigger rosters
    Not sure on Cr3 but u might dominate that league with so many 11s lol
    G3 I think you'll dominate that league. We had a second clan for CWL for Th10s Th9s Th8s but don't anymore. It was fighting comfortably in G2
    No ideas about S2



    Edit: this is for 15 CWL, I have no experience with 30 CWL sorry. We don't even have enough for 25 or 30 in normal wars lol
    Last edited by Oblivionn; August 23rd, 2019 at 11:07 AM.

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    My clan has bounced between Crystal 2 and Crystal 1 the past few seasons.

    Our Roster:
    TH 12 - 5-7 (Standard is 7, but had 2 12s miss a Crystal 2 season once)
    TH 11 - 4-5 (Standard is 4, had some move up to 12 get replaced with 10s that upgraded)
    TH 10 - 2-3 (Standard is 2, had a few seasons with more but some upgraded to 11)
    TH 9 - 1-2 (Standard is 2, had a couple seasons with 1 but an 11 dropped out and was replaced with a newer member)

    Our enemy rosters in both C1 and C2 rarely have any TH 9s. There's also been some clans without any TH 10s or engineered accounts that defend worse than TH 9s (This is more typical of C1).

    I would say on average our roster is stronger than clans in C2. We have 2 max 12 bases and rarely came across a max base here. Also, our lower TH 12s are usually stronger than our opponents lower TH 12s, or they have less TH 12s then we do. The bottom of our roster is a little out gunned with 9s going against 10s, but I can get my mini to 2 star some 11s or 12s to allow for more dips that it works out. With our normal roster we took 1st place last CWL going 7-0 (first war was a 2 star victory, others where more than that) and won pretty handily.

    I'd also say on average we're weaker than most clans in C1. Here the tops of the rosters are fairly equal as most clans have similar TH 12s to us in both number and strength. Where we lack is on the bottom as our 10s and 9s are usually across from tougher opponents. This makes it even more important to reach up for 2 and allow others to dip a little for easier 3s. Usually we finish in the middle of the pack (4th - 6th place) which is right where we should be in the CWL environment.

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    Cheers for all your feedback guys, much appreciated views.

    This is our main focus for my alliance so that we place each base into the league they want (within reason) but also so that our lineups are competitive to push for promotion or at least win the majority of the wars. It is a juggling act between the number of each THs that sign up each month and the clans we have available.

    Will let you know how we get on after CWL.


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    As an update, we're running 12/3 (12Th12 3 Th11) in M2 15 CWL. We had to run 11/4 on 2 of the days cause we had some disconnects/no shows unfortunately. We finished 4th, happy

    Day1: All Th12s (15/0). 29-29 lost on % they ended up 1st place
    Day2: 14/1. One of their 12s is a donation account and has lv 1 everything lol. 32-31 very close win! They ended 3rd
    Day3: 10/3/2. They've pretty much given up. 37-12 we missed one attack but oh well. At least it was a max th12 ring base unattacked. 8th place
    Day4: All Th12s again. 25-27 we had a disconnect and a missed attack (both were same player whos been a good attacker). 2nd place
    Day5: All Th12s yet again. They were weird attackers. Had the strongest bases but kinda bad. One of them even came in with a barch army, then surrendered once he realized the army was wrong LOL
    Day6: 12/3. 7th place they were disorganized mirror attackers and kept missing attacks during cwl
    Day7: 12/3. Same as day 6 clan but didn't miss as many attacks. Bad layouts tho. 6th place

    SC REALLY needs to update the weights for initial seeding cause the 8th place clan was its first time its been in CWL

    1st: 297stars 8727% going 7-0
    2nd: 266stars 8340% going 5-2
    3rd: 261 stars 8075% going 4-3
    4th: 252stars 7420% going 4-3
    5th: 248stars 7420% going 5-2
    6th: 201stars 6963% going 1-6
    7th: 193stars 6753% going 2-5
    8th: 90stars 4285% going 0-7
    Last edited by Oblivionn; September 11th, 2019 at 05:50 PM.

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