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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegreatpuma View Post
    is it possible that the maxed GT and the weight of the top base is skewing the bottom nine that much?

    The th11 while having no eagle does have the other defenses added and upgraded. my 10 probably won't be able to 3 the 11 without some luck, especially if his traps are purchased and upgraded. but the bottom 8 are just ridiculously skewed in our favor.

    I'm not really sure what these guys are doing. i don't know if they're trying to keep weight low by not adding xbows or are just clueless rushers. generally though rushers buy the heavy defenses. so I'm just not really understanding. all the nines have colorful yellow, pink, purple and black walls lol
    Obviously, cant see the bases.. But it is possible they are simply trying to gain top end advantage, which they have succeeded in doing.
    But, if that is the case, then they have severely under cooked the middle of the roster if that were their intention.
    They may also be looking at the top, and that middle order is all they carry.
    Or, looking at those hero levels, they are casual, with a couple of players, and simply putting out what they have.
    How does their war log look?.. It may have been a "suck it and see" that is working for them

    How does that 11 compare to yours?. Maybe, as you say, they are paying for that 12 with the rest of their roster.. Certainly much of their entire weight will be contained with those top 2 bases, and backed up by a 10 too.

    But even if the numbers add up, I would have expected some form of check box to keep the clans apart.
    Sure, the bulk are 9s/mid hall bases, but the top end is chalk and cheese.
    Dont figure.. maybe the picture will become more clear in time, with more study.. but simplistic "easy on the eye" matching certainly aint happenin' here mate.

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    here's their war log:

    https://cocp.it/clan/9QGJPGGU

    just over .500 overall but closer to .650 lately.

    my ten is fully maxed, walls and all, 90k gold weight. the mirror 11 has everything but an ea, much of it upgraded, 92k gold weight. by contrast our anchor 11 carries 106k gold weight.
    his troops, avg to below, has not unlocked IG or bats.
    see base and build here:
    https://ibb.co/M66tTTH
    https://ibb.co/KV0ZYj0

    my guess is if he attacks me it will be with edrags. he's going to be in for a surprise if he does as my base handles standard edrag attacks pretty well. he'll need to bring his A game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegreatpuma View Post
    is it possible that the maxed GT and the weight of the top base is skewing the bottom nine that much?

    The th11 while having no eagle does have the other defenses added and upgraded. my 10 probably won't be able to 3 the 11 without some luck, especially if his traps are purchased and upgraded. but the bottom 8 are just ridiculously skewed in our favor.

    I'm not really sure what these guys are doing. i don't know if they're trying to keep weight low by not adding xbows or are just clueless rushers. generally though rushers buy the heavy defenses. so I'm just not really understanding. all the nines have colorful yellow, pink, purple and black walls lol
    Generally a match can seem skewed to one side until you look to the mid.

    That match looks like it's more in your favor since it is unlikely that their 9's will be able to take yours.

    I don't think that low 10 you have is helping your match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorJohnson View Post
    Generally a match can seem skewed to one side until you look to the mid.

    That match looks like it's more in your favor since it is unlikely that their 9's will be able to take yours.

    I don't think that low 10 you have is helping your match.
    they didn't. they attacked a total of three times lol

    yeah the low ten is just a non maxed 9 with th upgraded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegreatpuma View Post
    they didn't. they attacked a total of three times lol

    yeah the low ten is just a non maxed 9 with th upgraded.
    I wouldnt expect that "red 9" to do anything to alter the search.
    I found by changing the top hall colour it did alter their top end, but could still smash their full roster, since I am playing mini's.

    My last search, they got a 10 thru, plus 2x 9s, against my 3x 9s.
    All of theirs carried bows, whereas only my top one does.
    But I always get good hero advantage, and my bases are more set out for war, rather than rushed, or badly constructed.
    Walls also appear to be neglected on oppo bases, which usually opens up attack options, although my go to is laloonion at 9, good old gowipe at 8, leading to govawi later hall, and drags below that. But scoring max wars each time is a simply playing experience in most cases, coupled with more build experience and them being more noob to keep them out.
    But I believe walls and heroes win wars.
    And it is always more difficult when playing your main account, which is what they are likely doing.

    So far as matching, it is difficult to see much, other than the wars are pretty fair on paper, with some give and take from the MMA.
    Probably need to go 15v now, to look for more differential, since the 10v is a little vague.

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    We are on a 20 win streak now, and barring some crazy meltdown it will be 21. The matchup that spawned this thread was number 11 in this streak and we won on percentage 44 99.13 - 44 98.47. There was only one other match since that was less than a 2* victory for us and our opponents are consistently like the ones from this post: https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...1#post12302675

    I don't know if we are in some sort of special zone of base strength that just has a lot of heavy defense light heroes THs participating or what but right now it almost seems like our matches are getting easier. Are these fair on paper? It does not seem so to me, it feels like since we won that close one at 11 the matchmaker has been trying to put the odds in our favor LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegreatpuma View Post
    We are on a 20 win streak now, and barring some crazy meltdown it will be 21. The matchup that spawned this thread was number 11 in this streak and we won on percentage 44 99.13 - 44 98.47. There was only one other match since that was less than a 2* victory for us and our opponents are consistently like the ones from this post: https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...1#post12302675

    I don't know if we are in some sort of special zone of base strength that just has a lot of heavy defense light heroes THs participating or what but right now it almost seems like our matches are getting easier. Are these fair on paper? It does not seem so to me, it feels like since we won that close one at 11 the matchmaker has been trying to put the odds in our favor LOL!
    Yeah mate, i am pretty much seeing the same with what I am spinning.
    I tend to think i am in a casual pond, and simply feeding on the minnows that are swimming with me.
    This war, they should have been pretty ok ( my first 15v), but 4 of their players left on prep day, and they havent filled cc.
    Last war, I lost my perfect streak with 2 rubbish attacks on their 1, and dropped a star.. Should have lost since it should have been a perfect draw. But their number 1 no showed.

    It is very much like silver and below in cwl.. Simply noob clans.
    Wins and streaks dont really carry any value.. Is simply another day at the office.
    Now and again, somebody also perfects.. But then again, my weights are way below their halls, so will happen.
    I did upgrade hall only to begin with.. But fully agree with the hero part.. Those guys simply dont see the benefits

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    So are you thinking the majority of the skilled clans have all moved to 11/12 wars only?

    we've got a ways to go b before we have a majority of 12s in our clan and it may never happen. i guess this is what happens when the game moves so fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegreatpuma View Post
    So are you thinking the majority of the skilled clans have all moved to 11/12 wars only?

    we've got a ways to go b before we have a majority of 12s in our clan and it may never happen. i guess this is what happens when the game moves so fast.
    You are using some 12s.. i would expect there to be a lot of clans that rushed accounts simply for cwl.
    You also add low bases, so would likely keep you away from the chest thumpers that reside in the general forum.

    As for me.. i am playing little league, so will get what I get.. Now and again, I will meet somebody that is doing likewise.
    All good stuff for those that want a streak, or at least best chance of one.. But not good for improving ones game.

    For me, I will take the opportunity to build clan levels, and try some different set ups whilst my bigger accounts grow.
    Then, I suppose I better learn to play properly.. Starting with hogs I think.. can never get comfortable with those things.

    i agree with the clan structure mate.. just when we begin to get somewhere, they make the game bigger.
    Probably have to go search a big clan to mix it with the chest thumpers tho.. growing ones own clan is just too long of an investment to get those big bases from scratch.. 3 to 4 years is a long time to wait mate.

    feels like planting acorns, when what you want is oak trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegreatpuma View Post
    So are you thinking the majority of the skilled clans have all moved to 11/12 wars only?

    we've got a ways to go b before we have a majority of 12s in our clan and it may never happen. i guess this is what happens when the game moves so fast.
    Probably, I find matachmaking challenging in our sister clan because many are upgrading very rapidly so we are up to around 15-20 TH12s. I want to create good matches but it's hard when the ones I want in war have heroes down, and the ones I think are not ready for war, need to get in because they want to get stars for the season pass. Even a couple of my minis are getting pretty big now lol

    I don't like all max wars because even if you are good, there is a higher chance you might run into a modding clan though I think it has been close to a year since we have faced one.

    At a 10 win streak in our sister clan with about 76% win rate overall :P Last war we still won despite me pulling two 1-stars with my beast, one of which was against a TH11 :S
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