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    Wallbreakers AI and unusable pigs!!?!

    Why are the wallbreakers so stupid nowadays? Instead of keep going forward to the next blowable wall they follow the wall they've allredy blowed up!! This is truly a real problem. My giants always end up pounding the wall to demolish it. Which of course take some time, meanwhile the inferno and mortars slaughter my other troops..

    Have we truly come to a point in the game, where we need to have jump spells with us?

    why do you keep making troops unusable? Exactly the same with the pigs... Straight after everyone has upgraded them to lvl 5. What if i bought 14.000 gems just to upgrade them? Since the product I purchased have changed so much that I can't use it no more. I want my money back.

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    i would agree about the wall breakers... i spam them because i am to lazy to use them strategically and 6 of them will blow a 8 square hole into one compartment.

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    If you look closely at the top ranking players, you might notice that almost all of them use 20+ WB as part of their army (including myself). They are quite usable, one just has to use them strategically and know how they work / what walls they will target.

    For example, WB don't run directly towards the center because that's not how their AI works. They target the closest sealed compartment that has buildings behind the walls. So, for example, if you open up all of the outer compartments on one side of a base, any WB you send in after that will then aim for the next layer of compartments inside the base instead of all running off to the sides. Try it out on some goblin levels, make a bunch of WB, deploy them a few at a time, and see how their targeting changes before and after different sections get opened up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabler View Post
    why do you keep making troops unusable? Exactly the same with the pigs... Straight after everyone has upgraded them to lvl 5. What if i bought 14.000 gems just to upgrade them? Since the product I purchased have changed so much that I can't use it no more. I want my money back.
    The product you purchased, i.e. gems, works just fine. Pay the bucks, get the gems. What you spend them on is entirely your own deciscion, and has nothing to do with SC. Logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainne View Post
    As a TH9, I am so sick of being 100%'d by a 30-40 Hog Army + 4 Healing Spells + 10-15 Archers.

    It's absolutely brainless and requires no thinking whatsoever. All you do is click and spam hogs on side of the base and watch them slowly roll over every single defense in the vicinity.

    Splash? Heal Spell.

    Xbows? Heal Spell.

    Traps? No worries, there's 30+ more hogs who didn't get hit by a spring trap.

    They should really make the upgrade Giant Bomb capable of one shotting maxed level hogs. Maybe then they would be afraid to spam all their Hogs on one side of the base.

    It absolutely sucks spending so much time build a base, collecting resources and purchasing expensive upgrades only to be rolled by a Hog Army spam. What's the cost of creating a Hog Army when the base you're attacking has 2k+ Dark Elixir for you to steal? Absolutely nothing. You win 360k Gold/360k Elixir and break even on Dark Elixir. All with NO effort.

    Even Dragon Armies are susceptible to being taken down by well placed Air Defenses. Balloons' weaknesses is that they move slow therefore more susceptible to splash. The only real counter to Hogs is perhaps Wizards in the Clan Castle but they're counter-able by 2 Lightning Spells and also you would have to rely on clan mates who are willing to donate those to you.

    MAKE HOGS ONE SHOT-ABLE by Giant Bombs!! Hogs move faster than Heroes can chase them!! What the heck??

    I cannot wait until I'm TH10 and get Inferno Towers. Good change on the multiple targets and anti-heal Supercell!!
    Here you are complaining about invincible pigs and another guy (see below) complains about 'unusable (guess he means useless) pigs'. Can u PM him and sort it out first before further confusing us. Who am I supposed to listen to if I'm SC

    Quote Originally Posted by Fabler View Post
    Why are the wallbreakers so stupid nowadays? Instead of keep going forward to the next blowable wall they follow the wall they've allredy blowed up!! This is truly a real problem. My giants always end up pounding the wall to demolish it. Which of course take some time, meanwhile the inferno and mortars slaughter my other troops..

    Have we truly come to a point in the game, where we need to have jump spells with us?

    why do you keep making troops unusable? Exactly the same with the pigs... Straight after everyone has upgraded them to lvl 5. What if i bought 14.000 gems just to upgrade them? Since the product I purchased have changed so much that I can't use it no more. I want my money back.

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    Red face

    I don't use wallbreakers, simply so I have less of a chance to mess up, and it makes cooking troops really easy. 1 barrack for barbs, 1 for gobs, 2 for archers, 1 jump spell 2 heals and a rage.
    Last edited by JacobP; December 18th, 2013 at 04:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexchok View Post
    Here you are complaining about invincible pigs and another guy (see below) complains about 'unusable (guess he means useless) pigs'. Can u PM him and sort it out first before further confusing us. Who am I supposed to listen to if I'm SC
    Well since i did'nt write it before I have TH 10, and are laying around 3000 trophys. At my level there are ONLY villages with TH 10 and 2 inferno towers max upgrade, with multiple targets feature on. Pigs are slaughtered....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phal View Post
    If you look closely at the top ranking players, you might notice that almost all of them use 20+ WB as part of their army (including myself). They are quite usable, one just has to use them strategically and know how they work / what walls they will target.

    For example, WB don't run directly towards the center because that's not how their AI works. They target the closest sealed compartment that has buildings behind the walls. So, for example, if you open up all of the outer compartments on one side of a base, any WB you send in after that will then aim for the next layer of compartments inside the base instead of all running off to the sides. Try it out on some goblin levels, make a bunch of WB, deploy them a few at a time, and see how their targeting changes before and after different sections get opened up.
    Thanks for a good answer, I will try this out:-)

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    Dosent gowiwi use 20+ Wb i think thats meant for you to spam it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phal View Post
    If you look closely at the top ranking players, you might notice that almost all of them use 20+ WB as part of their army (including myself). They are quite usable, one just has to use them strategically and know how they work / what walls they will target.

    For example, WB don't run directly towards the center because that's not how their AI works. They target the closest sealed compartment that has buildings behind the walls. So, for example, if you open up all of the outer compartments on one side of a base, any WB you send in after that will then aim for the next layer of compartments inside the base instead of all running off to the sides. Try it out on some goblin levels, make a bunch of WB, deploy them a few at a time, and see how their targeting changes before and after different sections get opened up.
    you call using 20 wb in an army strategic? i beg to differ... 20 are used (raged too) because that guarantees the job done! otherwise theyll probably .... muck up .... hence why so many are used!
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