3 Things - feel free to add - In support of Supercell

[Exiists]

1) I've never seen so many crybabies - I wish Supercell would release the mean age of their players as it seems as though it is 8,

2) Loot is fine - I'd love to find out what folks consider a "good raid" or "worth it". I never take more that five mins to find a decent battle now that literally all gold is profit.

3) My only gripe - how cvan I get a blessed Christmas tree?!

1. Perhaps people are crying because there is a reason to? Take your base and go up in cups. The loot is abysmal above Crystal III and only gets worse as you get to Masters III.

2. Loot may be fine for you, but it isn't fine for a large portion of the community. I prefer not to spend 10-20 minutes hitting next. Whats worth it? Well, the loot has to cover my troop costs and be worth the 20-30 minute cook time. Or, if I'm cup hunting, it needs to be worth the risk. Inferno Towers were upgraded massively in the last update, making it much more unrealistic for a TH9 to stay in Masters.

3. No, you can't have a Christmas tree. Why? Because when you remove it, it gives you 100 gems.

[Xelleration]

1 of the things I hate about the forums with the xmas tree is the amount of people actually ♥♥♥♥♥ing about the xmas tree they haven't got yet

[superclash99]

1) I've never seen so many crybabies - I wish Supercell would release the mean age of their players as it seems as though it is 8,

2) Loot is fine - I'd love to find out what folks consider a "good raid" or "worth it". I never take more that five mins to find a decent battle now that literally all gold is profit.

3) My only gripe - how cvan I get a blessed Christmas tree?!

You complain about other players with real issues and make fun of their maturity, and at the same time you expect to be taken seriously when you end your post with a demand for a christmas tree?? FAIL.

Oh, I get it.

This is another christmas tree thread in disguise.

[RandyCooper]

You complain about other players with real issues and make fun of their maturity, and at the same time you expect to be taken seriously when you end your post with a demand for a christmas tree?? FAIL.

Oh, I get it.

This is another christmas tree thread in disguise.

Oh I'm sorry, you are so right. My light hearted comment about the tree negates the points about whining.

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[Herpacleese]

These threads are getting very tiresome from the point that every negative or positive comment is comming from a player who is basing this on their own personal experiences within the game. The fact that this becomes a flame war is ridiculous, all because your personal game experience holds no value for those on the other side. The only way to prove either theory right or wrong, is to have hard data from SC, and good luck with that.

I will add that comments like, crybabies, whiners, adapt, get over it, etc., only fan the flames, and to begin a thread with these included in the first line are there only to feed a hungry troll.

With that, I will add my personal experiences.

I have only played two days since the update. Not because I was angry with it, I actually quit a few days before it was released apparently, but because I was tired of the game in general. Once I realized there was an update, I decided to log in at least once a day to collect and see what armies I was now being attacked by and by whom. I dropped from crystal 1 to gold 2 and set up my experiment. I found that I was now being 3 stared far more often by maxed TH9's and 10's, wall farming, than I was in crystal 1. This trend seems to increased as more time passes. The raids are mostly spammed hogs with level 20+ heros backing them up.
As for what I was consistantly offered, farming with tier ones, as I should be able to do that at gold 2, was an average of 35k of gold, 70k for elixer, and I won't even consider the negligible DE I saw. There were the odd 350k+ offers, but they were being held by those maxed TH10's with the storages neatly tucked around the new disco balls, three maxed x-bows, WT's etc.. I saw a few more maxxed TH9's offering a bit less, but again, no chance with my tier ones.

What I have gathered from this is that with the removal of the loot bonus for lower TH's, now, with no fear of loss, more TH10's are dumping cups in order to farm the easier bases. Why be bothered to fight a difficult TH10 for a portion of the loot when I can three star a TH8 or 9, stealing more, in comparison to that TH10. This, and the fact cheaper and faster trained armies will generate more raids per hour, it's a win win for those higher level TH's, when they dump cups.

Now go ahead and let the flaming begin, because I offer no proof, only my personal experience.

[Evga]

but lancerjk said that everyone complaining is showing proof and evidence while everyone not complaining has no proof. So you must be lying!

I think the logic is sound except for one thing, people who show proof because they NEED THE CHANGE so they would go through the loops to get it even posting screenshot etc.

For most of us who loots is good or better than before, like me, couldn't care less to show evidence that our loot is amazing. I mean it is like extra work, and i'm sooo lazy :P

[CashClash22]

I am just getting annoyed at the people who say "I got a 600k raid, the loot is automatically great for everyone!" For me the loot is not bad at all but I get frustrated when people post 1 good raid and pretend that it pertains to all trophy and town hall levels.

[Ghxst]

I'm the same way, I dissed the new loot system non stop when it first got released, but now I'm actually getting used it, and it turns out that it's not so bad. Some people just need to make the best out of a bad situation.

[superclash99]

What I have gathered from this is that with the removal of the loot bonus for lower TH's, now, with no fear of loss, more TH10's are dumping cups in order to farm the easier bases. Why be bothered to fight a difficult TH10 for a portion of the loot when I can three star a TH8 or 9, stealing more, in comparison to that TH10. This, and the fact cheaper and faster trained armies will generate more raids per hour, it's a win win for those higher level TH's, when they dump cups.

But SC (SuperCynic) said this is not true, so you must be lying!

(sarcasm)

[lancerjk]

I have 200-300 wins per season, so I'll call that farming extensively.

At worst they made the game harder and whiners don't like that.

Who told you I didn't have 200-300 wins / season?

I have seen countless people post in depth responses explaining why they don't agree with the complaints with plenty of evidence, and every time the same thing happens: they get flamed or ignored. For the most part people complaining are the ones providing little to no evidence, rather, they are just stating assumptions and theories as if they are fact.

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Higher TH levels have always gone for lower TH levels, this is not a new phenomenon. You seem to be conveniently forgetting to mention that the potential for loot gain form attacking a higher TH is bigger as well. So a TH10 getting raided for 400k+ of each resource is acceptable but a TH9 getting raided for more than 200k of each resource is unacceptable? A TH7 should be allowed to get 300-400k but losing 200k is unfair?

Now with the recent discounted barracks and elix boosts it should be easier than ever to efficiently raid higher TH's quickly and efficiently.

But previously the limit a higher lvl can hit a lower level is 180k. Now it's almost 2x with the lower level not being able to do a revenge hit worth his while..


WHILE YOU WERE LOWER LEVELS YOU ARE GETTING HITTED BY HIGHER TH FOR 180K/less.. WE ARE GETTING HIT FOR 330K/280K/LESS.. WE ARE TELLING YOU THE SITUATION AND YOU'RE ONLY SAYING "YES THEY ALWAYS HIT LOW LEVEL" BUT DO THEY ALWAYS HIT LOW LEVEL FOR SO MUCH? DO THEY ALWAYS ENJOY SUCH BIG PROFITS FOR HITTING LOWER LEVEL?

And I understand the benefits of this loot system but they should nerf farming lower levels. I complained but also suggest improvements such as increasing penalty for hitting lower levels (1 level below -25%). This would allow the update to be more balanced out and promote people attacking the same TH level. Personally, I've been attacking lower TH more too because that's the only way i can get 100% of their resources of about 500k or more.. But if that were penalized, I would have less opportunity costs in attacking same TH levels.