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    The Game does not Support New Clans.

    Trying to build your own clan from stratch is near impossible, and it's sad that if you want to make your own and develop it, it 99% of the time won't happen. Why? Two things:

    1. Clan perks are beneficial and very appealing. Anyone would rather join a clan with all the clan perks than one without any, making new clans unappealing to join.

    2. Lack of resources to find players you want. The best way to reach it is to go into global and hope you find clanless people to invite. But sadly, most of them won't join as mentioned before as clan perks are a thing. Not to mention, who wants to join a clan with barely any people. But if that wasn't hard enough, the odds you'll find a player who won't leave immediately and is active and is some brainless noob, is highly stacked against you. There's not any tools to recruit players, only ones to find clans to join.

    While it is understandable that if you just started the game and create a clan that it'll likely not work out, but I'm taking it from the perspective of someone like me who is a more veteran player. I'm a almost maxed th10 in champion's league. So in terms of my eleligibility, that's not a problem. And I've had a clan for several months and it doesn't seem to be going anywhere. I wanted to make my own clan for a few reasons, them being to able to take pride in developing mymy own clan, to have a clan which supports values that I do, and to know that I always have a place there, and don't have to worry about being arbitrary kicked even though I am a good member for clans that I've joined (let me make this clear that under no circumstances was I being a bad member, donating whenever I can, being active, particiting in clan war/games, etc.)

    It's disheartening that the game essentially doesn't support new clans, making all ready established clans the only viable clans. Honestly, they might as well remove the option to create a clan at this point, considering it's just a waste. Clans I think should be reworked, and something they can do is make much less easier to make a clan, so ht you don't have noobs making these wasteful clans, for example. Also having other ways to level up clans would be ideal, so that if you're struggling for members, you can still develop you clan, and get those all important clan perks.
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    Well said, in global high chance you would get banned for nothing for recruiting. I never recruit at all and just play with my own accounts and manage to bring up my clan to level 6 now , I play clan games to the maxed tier that I could.

    Used to war back to back, these days with the work demands, just war whenever i can to grow the clan level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soren64 View Post
    Trying to build your own clan from stratch is near impossible, and it's sad that if you want to make your own and develop it, it 99% of the time won't happen. Why? Two things:

    1. Clan perks are beneficial and very appealing. Anyone would rather join a clan with all the clan perks than one without any, making new clans unappealing to join.

    2. Lack of resources to find players you want. The best way to reach it is to go into global and hope you find clanless people to invite. But sadly, most of them won't join as mentioned before as clan perks are a thing. Not to mention, who wants to join a clan with barely any people. But if that wasn't hard enough, the odds you'll find a player who won't leave immediately and is active and is some brainless noob, is highly stacked against you. There's not any tools to recruit players, only ones to find clans to join.

    It's disheartening that the game essentially doesn't support new clans, making all ready established clans the only viable clans. Honestly, they might as well remove the option to create a clan at this point, considering it's just a waste. Not sure what could/should be done, but seriously it's pitiful the current state of clans right now.
    So What? Isnt life like this?
    Unless u got a group of ppl that want to make a new clan, why would ppl want a new clan? Just to be leader? There is soo many out there that u can join and find one that u like...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soren64 View Post
    Trying to build your own clan from stratch is near impossible, and it's sad that if you want to make your own and develop it, it 99% of the time won't happen. Why? Two things:


    It's disheartening that the game essentially doesn't support new clans, making all ready established clans the only viable clans. Honestly, they might as well remove the option to create a clan at this point, considering it's just a waste. Not sure what could/should be done, but seriously it's pitiful the current state of clans right now.
    You say this like it is illogical.

    Well of course. It is borderline foolish to join a new clan.

    But, let me babble as to why.

    The majority.. and I am not using a speck of hyperbole, the VAST majority of new clans should NEVER be made. They are made by zero war star players that know nothing of game, players have no plans to be online much, badly rushed players that have no concept of game (no donates, bad war stars, hit ten spots down in war and claim they are three star specialist types) or players that like the idea of leading and think that clan building is automatic and just happens...

    This is who makes the majority of clans. Anyone that joins is doomed be be online alone most of the time, or never get troops, lose wars because no one attacks, or have a leader that hops because they got bored and see a free co opportunity elsewhere...

    You start a clan by yourself... why should anyone join you?

    Yet, you start a clan with a few clashers you know well from the game? Suddenly a few war wins attracts a few more players. Then a few more. And you are the 1% of new clans that survive. No reason for the other 99% to survive. They offer nothing to the clash experience.

    Scroll up in this very subforum at the "Hey I started a new clan and no one is joining" posts. I often slip a mini account into that clan to peek at things (I am that kinda idiot sadly). Seldom do they have anyone they started with, they have names like "Best Clan" and only last a few hours after making the thread.

    And why is it pitiful? Not everyone needs to be the leader. Most clan leaders do not want to lead.
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    Finding new players is a challenge for all clans. Finding worthy new players is an even greater challenge. However, I don't think the problem is that it's too hard for new clans. I think it's just the opposite. I think it's too easy to create a new clan. It costs only 10,000 gold and there are millions and millions of them. The problem with gaining new players has little to do with clan perks and everything to do with the ratio of clans to players actually seeking a new clan. The competition is fierce.

    Building any team from scratch is going to be a difficult chore. Try starting a local baseball team and see how many people you get to sign up when you don't yet have any coaches, umpires, players or equipment. Is the problem that existing teams/leagues are too skilled or too high level? No, the problem is that no one wants to sit alone in the outfield while no one pitches the ball, no one is covering the bases, and no one is up at bat. Everyone who joins a team expects to have enough players to play all the positions and complete a game. The same is true of Clash of Clans. No one wants to join a team just to make clan castle requests that sit there for days on end with no one to fill them, no one to talk to, no one to learn from, and not enough players to participate in Clan War Leagues, complete Clan Games or compete in Clan Wars.

    I'm not sure why you think starting from scratch should be easy at all. Many clans did not start the way you are attempting. That's not how I started my clan nearly 5 years ago. I started with a solid group of gamers that I knew and I introduced them to Clash of Clans. We joined the game together and we formed the team together. If you don't already have a group of players willing to play with you, I'm not sure you understood the challenge in creating yet another new clan in an already too large pool of clans seeking new players.
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    To start a clan, you need to offer what people are looking for in a clan.
    I have helped build 2 clans in my clash career, both times I had max troops available to donate without the need for perks.
    I played the game a lot in these times, and checked in even more often then I care to admit.
    If people can get CC's filled in a timely manner with strong troops, most times they stick around.

    And to back my point, I have mainly been in 2 clans the last 4.5 years, both were successful, and the reason I have a friend in need that is over 1.1 million.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warios View Post
    To start a clan, you need to offer what people are looking for in a clan.
    I have helped build 2 clans in my clash career, both times I had max troops available to donate without the need for perks.
    I played the game a lot in these times, and checked in even more often then I care to admit.
    If people can get CC's filled in a timely manner with strong troops, most times they stick around.
    This really is key. You keep cc filled with strong troops and people will stick around.

    You teach them how to play the game and they will be loyal and recruit.

    I used 5v5 wars (warring by myself with 4 accounts - started a little over a year ago) to build a clan to level 5 before bringing my son and a handful of his friends over. (I rushed one of my minis to 10 to get bowlers so we could donate to TH9s as they progressed) We continued warring while occasionally picking people up from global. 99% of them left but a few stuck around, learned our rules and how to play and we've got a fairly successful level 7 clan now. When in global you don't need to recruit actively...just show knowledge of the game. It will pique people's interest and you will get good players that way. I'm to the point now that I'm rushing an account to 12 to get WW donations for our tens. Give us another 12 months or so and we will be level 10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SharkyFinn View Post
    I think it's too easy to create a new clan. It costs only 10,000 gold and there are millions and millions of them. The problem with gaining new players has little to do with clan perks and everything to do with the ratio of clans to players actually seeking a new clan. The competition is fierce.
    I gotta agree with the Shark! There is no barrier to creating a clan & leveling up for perks is now much easier & faster than before. But, you need to be willing to devote a lot of time to getting a clan going from nothing. It's nearly impossible, unless you already have a core of players who you know in real life, or from being in another clan.

    You don't say where you're at in the game, but unless you can donate high level troops in massive numbers (see Warios' 1.1 million Friend In Need...), you aren't going to attract & retain good, committed clanmates. You need to be willing to be on more & work harder than everyone else. Other than sheer vanity, I don't know why anyone would want to create a clan from scratch at this point. Those of us running high level, established clans have to work hard to attract new members who will be decent team players. There just isn't some huge surplus of such players that you can't recruit because of missing tools.
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    I agree with you OP it is tuff to recruit new players in clan , as a non rushed th12 i was finding it difficult to find a right recruit initially(active , who donates, good at war etc), but nevertheless i was getting lot of applicants who were rushed so what i did was i had 2 accounts when i created my clan in Mar 2018, created 3 more and rushed my th so i could do 5 v 5 wars, sometimes random hopper would join for war and help. and now i have a lvl 7 clan closer to lvl 8 . I still find it difficult to find a right recruit.. as i prefer active clashers like me.
    What i can suggest is
    > Either Join a clan /merge (as u want to build your own clan, this is not an option)
    > Create multiple accounts and do clan wars. For CWL and Clan games, you can join other clan to do challenges /wars and
    claim rewards.
    [I usually invite th6+ from global and ask their help to do clan games, I have always maxed clan games <Last 7 cg> +420xp]
    > Do b2b wars and try and win lot of wars, which will attract other clashers

    PS : SC cant help you to create and sustain clan . All they can do is introduce new game feature which will attract clashers to clash more. All the best!!
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