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Thread: Nostradamus Predictions on Clash of Clans... all sub TH10 and current TH10 pls read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braddeller View Post
    The loot scarcity that you are seeing in th9 is what th9 people are seeing as well, but you have inferno towers plus stronger defenses to protect your storages better. So you think th10 have it worse??

    As predicted the loot scarcity had moved upwards and more and more th10 will be starting to feel it.
    I wont disagree with you on the defense of th10. However, it also hinders offense. To make those big profits, th10s need to also face infernos on offense. You can make small profits, sometime make a loss, when you raid. It stinks up here and you will see it too one day.

    End of the day, its not about one th having it better or worse. I think both are miserable as far as gameplay goes. The loot economy is rubbish, its like a ponzi scheme. You cant keep adding defenses and levels like they do and not inject in the resources to attain them. The newer games have balanced this so much better, it feels ridiculous to play clash now.

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    Still loads of dead bases out there. Th10's cant farm mines and collectors on th6's and th7's as its a waste of time. This is here to stay so either find your niche or quit. Happy hunting to all

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    Quote Originally Posted by arzanp View Post
    Hey mate,
    Completely agree. I will probably never get to the point of maxing TH 10. But people need to realise that if they play "casually" , then they're not going to have a dominating base, great armies or be ahead of the curve. I play this game for what it is, a game. Not a competition to max out everything the fastest . That said, it wasn't my intention to belittle anyone, I know most of you know how to farm etc. But if you're simply saying it's impossible to make any profit in this game, then that's not true. How you adapt from here on is up to you

    I have 2x max DE drills, so that takes care of all my DE problems. Dark Barracks maxed too. Minions 5, Hogs 4 (training to 5) and all normal troops maxed for TH 9.

    Both heroes are Level 5.

    Understand that OP's posts was about how the casual gamer suffered. I don't think Supercell designed this game to be easily dominated by a casual gamer. So what they've done is basically angle the game towards more active players. Obviously that's going to cause controversy. But it's still ok

    Also, I never have all 5 of my builders busy anymore, that would require, I reckon between 5 - 8 per day of gameplay

    Anyways, keep clashing and have a great time
    I'm happy to hear that you have found your own way though the game, nice one. I suppose thats my problem with this loot patch, its stopped me playing the game the way I liked to, I used to have a quick raid every hour, then put the game down, now it is feeling like more and more of a grind especially when I need to do big upgrades. In the near future I can see a time when I will play CoC the same as you do now, but don't really want to change my style overnight like this patch has forced me to do.

    Good job on all the dark troops, that surprised me
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    Quote Originally Posted by arzanp View Post

    Understand that OP's posts was about how the casual gamer suffered. I don't think Supercell designed this game to be easily dominated by a casual gamer.
    I want to clarify that I never suggested that this game should be dominated by casual gamers. The game rewarded more active players simply by virtue of them putting more attacks in and getting more loot (accumulated). Fair and square. Wasn't suggesting that aspect needed fixing.

    So what they've done is basically angle the game towards more active players. Obviously that's going to cause controversy. But it's still ok
    You made an oversight there. What they've done was basically angle the game towards more developed bases. There is a difference between development and activity. More developed bases does not automatically mean more active players because we don't all start the game at the same time. More active gamers enjoyed the same edge they had before the update because there was no change to the league bonus, a variable which was and is still directly linked to the number of attacks put in.
    Last edited by Braddeller; December 14th, 2013 at 08:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braddeller View Post
    Obviously not?


    You probably did not search enough since you were looking for constant good loot. Before the update th9 did not have to change their playing style drastically and it wasn't too hard to find one a th9 with 200k-ish loot. I myself was among the players who contributed to the 200k-ish loot because I didnt mind getting attacked for what wasnt too hard to make back. Even sc said th10 were getting bored with getting the same old 200k loot so if you were getting 10k-40k you were doing something wrong.



    You have misunderstood or failed to read what I meant by the adaptation. By adapting I did not mean that th9 would have to adapt to attacking th10 which is not a very wise adaptation. What I meant by adaptation was in the playing style, keeping less than 1mil in storage when they log out. It wasn't especially important to do that before and that's why u th10 had more loot before at our expense and you didn't appreciated it and complained about boring 200k loot well now you killed the goose with your greed too bad.

    If you don't have a TH 10 you know nothing. We weren't seeing 200k loot raids from TH9 if we did we had pressed next 500 times to find it. I don't believe i have been doing something wrong considering i have a max base except walls? Once again sir... You are wrong

    second complaining and greed with the old loot? I actually didn't i soldiered on and farmed and farmed and cup hunted and cup hunted i enjoy this game so yes I persevered even though th10 had AWFUL loot before.

    You wish to appeal to more readers first get rid of your TH10 bias against us second get some ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE of TH10 farming before the update ... Ohh wait .. Now you can't

    "more loot before" sheesh experience it before you talk.

    please tell me your clan name and account name so i may look you up? I merely wish to see if my predictions are correct and you are either 1) a TH8/9 or 2) a very new TH10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braddeller View Post
    That was not what I was suggesting nor advising. In fact this thread is an observation and prediction of the trend, not an advise nor a complaint. What I said applies to all levels and largely dependent on how continuously logged on a player is. If it is detrimental for a player to log out with storages in the millions, he won't. It doesn't matter what I say. Everyone plays the way is best for his unique situation. If you did read you and you obviously understood nothing, it reflects on your intellectual level, not mine. Insults won't get you anywhere except show how immature you are.
    While you continue to digress, your OP was just reiterating what has been happening for over a year when TH8 was the maximum level. Your continued backtracking to validate your "prediction" is showing your inexperience in the iApp. If your "bigger" upgrades can be saved for in one sitting you either are low level or really don't do much but sit on CoC. There will be storage loot to be found always. Th10's have always attacked and still do attack TH10's and 9's. Casuals that are at a proper TH / cup lvl and not premie will be fine. Please explain the epiphany you had to qualify this astounding prediction?

    P.S. If your base is even halfway decent. The attackers won't get all the loot, or will skip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordPothog View Post
    While you continue to digress, your OP was just reiterating what has been happening for over a year when TH8 was the maximum level. Your continued backtracking to validate your "prediction" is showing your inexperience in the iApp. If your "bigger" upgrades can be saved for in one sitting you either are low level or really don't do much but sit on CoC. There will be storage loot to be found always. Th10's have always attacked and still do attack TH10's and 9's. Casuals that are at a proper TH / cup lvl and not premie will be fine. Please explain the epiphany you had to qualify this astounding prediction?

    P.S. If your base is even halfway decent. The attackers won't get all the loot, or will skip.
    That was hardly an astounding prediction. Art thou so easily astounded or is this a special occasion? The signs and symptoms are everywhere both in game and forums. What makes you think people want to waste time posting on forums if they could be having fun playing? Oh wait.. some are th10 lvl120 who are having things so good that they feel compelled to have to come protect their new lifestyle

    Just to highlight that I had said from the very beginning that it was not viable to upgrade in one sitting (although that would be the most efficient in negating the resource drainage on a micro level). That is not the way I am going nor was that my suggestion. My observation was in fact the the impracticality of that route which is what is leading to the loot scarcity on a macro level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braddeller View Post
    This is not a complain post. This is a prediction post. I cut off my left xxxx if it doesn't happen.

    Whats happening now:

    By now it should be quite obvious that the vast majority of players outside of TH10 are very unhappy for good valid reasons, the same reasons that some TH10 are gloating over with their "TH10 is king and suppose to rule policy." It has now become almost impossible for TH9 and below to make the necessary big upgrades unless staying in game for extended periods of time. This is because TH10 are now able to take big chunks out of a TH9 savings and hide them behind their way stronger defense where revenge is impractical. A TH9 would also hestitate to attack a TH10 for possibly getting a small reward while inviting a painful revenge. The result is the current trend of attacking downwards all throughout the game.

    Predictions:

    In time, more and more people below TH10 will change their playing style to adapt to the changing environment. People only do small upgrades like walls when they play for short sessions, while doing their bigger upgrades only when they have time to log on for an extended periods. As the number of people who changes style grows, the result is that big loots start disappearing from the searchable pool because they start to exist only when the players having them are online which is unsearchable. People who don't change style and played like before will have more and more people searching for them as more people changes playing style since there are lesser and lesser good targets. These people will be forced to adapt (unless they quit). Eventually everyone catches on and there will be no loot in the game for all at TH9 and below as people have to settle for attacking at lesser and lesser as more players adapts.

    This effect will first happen at TH9 and below, and eventually there will be no loot at TH9 and below and TH10s will finally find incentive to attack one another since they have been gloating and unadapted. And eventually TH10s are also forced to changed their playing style and there will be no loot in TH10 as well. The final result over time is that there will be no loot throughout the game. And the game becomes absolutely unfun and drifts away into oblivion like most great app games that has come and gone.

    It is already happening now at TH9 and below. TH9 and below people who feel this update is bad and your voices unheard, fret not. Unless SC do something about it, the effects will ultimately affect everyone. In the meantime just adapt and play while the game while it is still playable. Do the large upgrades sooner if you can, because the adapting mentioned earlier is only a temporary solution. In future you would have to stay online for even longer periods as the loot shrinks. Same goes for TH10 who are gloating away. Anyway, when it has come to that point where there is no loot universally that's the endtimes of coc because it just wouldn't be fun anymore. And playing is all about fun. Not loot, not "progression" but fun. loot and progression are secondary matters that don't matter anymore if the fun factor is removed.

    Such a sad thing that it has been proven yet again that no great app game stays great forever and they will have to make way for the next fun app to appear.
    So pumps will fill up again and put loot back in to the game as mines are constantly making resources.

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    Today is 40 days since the prediction. As projected, the loot loss has moved upwards and has affected most of the community including TH10. It has taken this long due to the 1-gem boosts during the Christmas season which provided a massive loot injection. Rumours has it that an update is just around the corner, stay tuned while we all eagerly anticipate the new update. A new prediction will be made when the new update has occurred.

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    The game has always been like this though. TH9 had xbows and TH8s struggled against them. Now TH9s struggle with 10s infernos, as well as TH10s for that matter. Farmers kind of destroy the game by lurking down where they are fairly untouchable with their advanced defences picking on weaker players. Thats the way it is though. Once you stop caring about trophies and use the as a means to adjust your matchmaking the trophy system concept fails completely. I cant see anything changing though in that regard so you either lower your cups to a level where you are the big fish in the pond or you get smashed by stronger players higher up.

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