Clash of Clans - Clan War Leagues Update Patch Notes! NOW IT'S TIME FOR WAR!

[VicThorious]

I'm sorry to say but the CWL has been a daft idea, especially when it has been advertised as something that will test players skills. We sometimes complain about the matchmaking in regular wars but this is far worse!
First match we had 10 th12s against 13 th12s. Luckily we won but it made us realize that all th12s have to be around with minimal rotation to stay competitive. Second match we are 10 th12s against 15 th12s. How fair is this?
This has also broken our clan in two: those who are in CWL, and 20-25 lower th.s that formed a clan to continue regular wars (without max troops in their cc.s).
We have been together for a long time so unity will be kept after CWL but so far it hasn't been a good experience for anyone.
I try to be constructive with my posts but to be honest I don't know how SC can improve this format. I guess many people will skip CWL next time as regular wars are much more balanced in every way.

[zank44]

there were ways to do that...
just as an example, and i am sure there is lots of other ways, the smaller clan could have several attacks for some players and could use 2 of the villages of the editor for some players to match the number.
if a clan of 15 matches a clan of 28 then 13 players have a second attack (so 28 attacks) and 13 use 2 defs villages (so 28 villages to attack for the bigger clan). Ths would permit the 28 players in front to play. The leader coud event chose wich players have second attack or second def village.
with 3 instead of 2 , a clan of 15 could match a clan of 45

While this makes some sense, it will also lead to complications. More often than not the extra attack and defense will want to come from the top of the clan. The extra accounts that the opposing clan is adding will most likely be coming from the bottom of the clan.

Take an extreme case example. Two clans are made up mostly of TH 9 - 11. The first clan brought just 15 accounts and includes 1 TH 12. The second clan brings a bunch of TH 8 and lower to go along with the 15 TH 9 - 11. In your suggestion instead of dealing with just 1 TH 12, they'd now have to deal with 2 and double the amount of 11s until the counts matched. That doesn't make things any better other than the fact all the TH 8s could get a chance to attack.

It'd be better in that scenario to rotate our some TH 9s for TH 8s if the 9s wouldn't be able to attack that day. If you come across an opponent that does have some TH 8s and lowers then you could rotate in those players so they have a chance to contribute.

One thing I'd like to see added to the Prep day page is a list of the TH breakdown the other clan has chosen. If they have lower THs included it'd be nice to know that as a leader. That way I can easily allow our lower accounts a chance to contribute. As it is right now I have to go to that clan and look at every profile to get a feel for what they'll be bringing. If you don't want to include the exact 15 then include the total they have available. Otherwise one could end up with a bunch of 9s in and 7s on the bench when the enemy included some of their own 7s. Yes that's good for us, but the 7s may want to contribute as well and see this as a missed opportunity.

[harsh06]

wonderful update

[RDB647]

I dont know if anyone asnwer this before but i see that if your clan wins a war in the CWL 10 stars are added to the clan? is true?

[Itsme]

I'm sorry to say but the CWL has been a daft idea, especially when it has been advertised as something that will test players skills. We sometimes complain about the matchmaking in regular wars but this is far worse!
First match we had 10 th12s against 13 th12s. Luckily we won but it made us realize that all th12s have to be around with minimal rotation to stay competitive. Second match we are 10 th12s against 15 th12s. How fair is this?
This has also broken our clan in two: those who are in CWL, and 20-25 lower th.s that formed a clan to continue regular wars (without max troops in their cc.s).
We have been together for a long time so unity will be kept after CWL but so far it hasn't been a good experience for anyone.
I try to be constructive with my posts but to be honest I don't know how SC can improve this format. I guess many people will skip CWL next time as regular wars are much more balanced in every way.

i agree.

Supercell made com on skill. But as a TH have a huge advantage against a lower TH, the cwl is wrong from the start because of the lack of matchmaking. There can be no skill test when a th12 is against a th10. The th12 wins , no skill needed. Classic wars have match making. This makes them much more a skill test than cwl.

even after several cwl, there will be skill context only for full th12 Clans.

for all the others leagues, clans will only have to recruit a few th12 and they will win their matches and go up.... no skill needed because a th12 is a hammer and a th10 is a nut.

This morning my very skilled th10 are bitter about all that. They all perfect others th10 in 95% of classic wars matches. What can they do against a full th12 clan ?


Where is skill in all that ?

[Prutser]

The problem with having matches with 15 TH12s vs mixed clans that have TH9s in the roster is because SC made the matchmaking process to fast.

I think SuperCell should have made the matchmaking process itself a 2 day process. First 1 day to let clans opt in or not. Day 2 the whole day is used to make matches as fair as possible. This way ALL the clans could be ordered very simple on possible strength and put into a certain range and league.

Sure you could have the odd clan that opts out TH12s so their lower THs could participate, but there would not be matches with 15 TH12s vs mixed THs.

[PastUsedBy]

This one's the awesome.

[Daralight]

I dont know if anyone asnwer this before but i see that if your clan wins a war in the CWL 10 stars are added to the clan? is true?

yes this is true

[Itsme]

Hi all
if the cwl is based on skill, why doesn't it calculate a kind of handicap based on the th difference.
For example in all the players who have the same th in front of them , then nothing happens,
if a th has the same +1 in front then the clan has half a star more when the war beggins and if it is +2 then it has a star (no more because the max we can do for one attack is 3).
for exemple a th10 in front of a th12 gives 1 star at the beginning of the war on the th10 side.
the th12 still has a great advantage because a th12 easily perfects a th10 and a th10 needs some skill to 2 star a th12... but at least the result if the th10 succeds is 3-3

lets us introduce more skilled based rules in the cwl !

[2222]

i agree.

Supercell made com on skill. But as a TH have a huge advantage against a lower TH, the cwl is wrong from the start because of the lack of matchmaking. There can be no skill test when a th12 is against a th10. The th12 wins , no skill needed. Classic wars have match making. This makes them much more a skill test than cwl.

even after several cwl, there will be skill context only for full th12 Clans.

for all the others leagues, clans will only have to recruit a few th12 and they will win their matches and go up.... no skill needed because a th12 is a hammer and a th10 is a nut.

This morning my very skilled th10 are bitter about all that. They all perfect others th10 in 95% of classic wars matches. What can they do against a full th12 clan ?


Where is skill in all that ?

There aren’t enough clanless th12s to go around for all clans to simply recruit a few th12s and even if they did they would move up a tier and the next season wouldn’t have an advantage. They will be winning about 50% just like everyone else.

Hi all
if the cwl is based on skill, why doesn't it calculate a kind of handicap based on the th difference.
For example in all the players who have the same th in front of them , then nothing happens,
if a th has the same +1 in front then the clan has half a star more when the war beggins and if it is +2 then it has a star (no more because the max we can do for one attack is 3).
for exemple a th10 in front of a th12 gives 1 star at the beginning of the war on the th10 side.
the th12 still has a great advantage because a th12 easily perfects a th10 and a th10 needs some skill to 2 star a th12... but at least the result if the th10 succeds is 3-3

lets us introduce more skilled based rules in the cwl !

War leagues encourage progression, rather than staying permanently maxed at a lower hall.