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    Never ever had such a bad mismatch

    Hi,
    I don't have a problem with tough clan war matches, actually they make the salt in the soup. But with this match I do have a problem.

    My clan
    Opponent clan
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    Heros Def Troups TH Heros Def Troups
    1
    12.5
    56/60/30 E3,I66,X6666,near max def near max 12.5
    55/60/25 E3,I66,X6666,near max def 11++
    2 12.5 40/47/22 E3,I66,X5555,TH11+ def near max 12.5 50/56/25 E3,I66,X6666,near max def 11++
    3 12.5 48/60/25 E3,I66,X6666,TH11+ def near max 12.5 45/50/20 E3,I66,X6666,TH11 def 11+
    4 11 43/50/20 E2,I45,X5555,max def max 11 44/50/20 E2,I55,X5555,TH10++ def 11
    5 11 35/47/16 E2,I55,X5555,near max def max 11 37/50/14 E2,I55,X5555,TH10++ def 11
    6 11 30/40/14 E2,I55,X5555,TH10+ def near max 11 41/50/15 E2,I55,X5555,TH10++ def 11
    7 10 20/38 I11,X222,TH9 def near max 10 40/40 I33,X444,TH9+ def 10max
    8 10 20/20 I0,X133,TH9 def not max 10 35/40 I33,X444,TH9+ def 9+
    9 9 10/10 from max TH8, no new def yet TH8+ 10 22/36 I33,X444,TH9+ def max
    10 8 10 near max TH8 TH8+ 11 49/50/20 10.5,E0,I0,X5555 10-11

    How can the number 10 be there? The overall war weights must be ridiculously distinct in this match-up. Or am I overseeing something? Their number 8 to 10 are much, much more stronger than our 8 to 10.

    Normally our TH8 don't have much work, they do some scouting after their one and only destruction attack.
    Actually our roster looks like this one very often and we never had a problem with it. But maybe there is something wrong with it and we just had luck in the past.

    From what we can see now on the preparation day, our top 5 have to do all the work, no little space for mistakes. And the opponents can play cat and mouse with us.

    So, can someone tell me whether our roster is bad or just our luck was bad.
    Our clan tag is CQ29CCU.
    If you need screenshots, I will post them.

    Thanks in advance,
    Guybrush
    Last edited by Guybrush1; October 8th, 2018 at 06:08 PM.

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    I wouldn’t call this a bad mismatch. I’d barely call it a mismatch at all. Since when do the 2 bottom (lowest weight) bases really matter in war? Also, it looks like your top 4-5 have an advantage of having higher level troops. I’m also curious as to why you list the th12s as 12.5? I’ll check out your roster real quick and look to see if there is anything else going on but this is certainly not what I would call a mismatch.

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    12.5 means Giga tesla level 5.

    With the number 10 they have an additional TH11, and with 9 an additional TH10.
    From 6 to 10 they have a big advantage in heros, and our tiny troup advantage is gone when they use power potions.
    They simply outperform us in heros and th levels. I cannot understand, that you mean that this is not a bad mismatch.

    As I sad, it looks like our top 5 have to do all the work. And this definitely is a huge disadvantage, when the opponents have the freedom to make some mistakes with the knowledge of existing backup attacks.
    Last edited by Guybrush1; October 8th, 2018 at 07:18 PM.

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    Can you share the opponent's tag please? I'm interested to see their war performance.

    And yeah, they have a significant number of hero levels more than you. You're going to have to attack near flawlessly while they will be able to make mistakes. Occasionally the matchmaker does make mistakes, but at least you have a shot. I've had wars every now and then where it's just not possible to win unless the opponent makes a large number of mistakes or doesn't attack. MM won't ever be perfect.
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    Their clantag: #80PGUJJ
    They have a win streak of 11 wins.

    And yes, we do have a shot. A challenge.

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    At face value, things look bad mate.
    To be fair, it isnt so bad a roster you have put down, looks like the MM had a senile moment. As already said, it can happen.
    I feel, if your spins are usually ok, then you maybe been unlucky this time, rather than lucky most often. Is possible the 8 isnt helping, but 1 account at the bottom, is unlikely to throw things so far off base.
    2 things tho. Cant have a 12.5, as 12 is the top hall. A x.5 usually means that half of the hall level is upgraded, usually the offence, whereas the other half (defence) is kept at previous hall level. If your 12 is fully maxed, then it is a fully max 12, not a .5
    Other thing. When arguing/debating mismatches, cant use oppo's potential to use potion, as a factor in the match. How does anybody know whether potion will be used?. The match is made irrelevant of anything that can be used to bump troop/defence levels post spin. It simply matches what it see's on home base at time spin is started.
    Now we can include the prep day account upgrade/power potion in war discussion, in yet another thread lol.

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    Not the worst match I've seen, but not great for the people at the bottom of your roster. I do find that having one low base at the bottom of the roster, will often mean they don't have a chance to get many stars.
    Does also look like a few of your Heroes are on the low side, but you seem to have good troops. And taking your recent wars into account, you seem to have some very good attackers in the clan, so you have a chance!

    I'm not sure why you feel your top 5 will have to do all the work. Surely base 7 can 3 star their 10, and base 6 can 3 star bases 8 & 9?
    Then your bottom bases can scout the top bases to find some of the traps and what is in the cc. Will help your top bases to plan their raids at least. You never know, with a little bit of luck (which we all need sometimes!) you could well end up with a win.

    Do let us know how you get on, and good luck with the war!

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    This looks like an almost perfect match to me. The bottom half of the map doesn't count at all. It looks like the war will come down to performance against each side's Th12s: can they be 3'd, and if not what's the %.

    It does look like you have a hero disadvantage. The matchmaker isn't going to match heroes with the other clan; the best way to compensate for this is to focus on upgrading heroes for a while.

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    I wouldn't really call this a mismatch, more of a slight disadvantage if any. You have better TH11 defense than they do so it might come down to their TH12s needing to dip against your 11s.

    Depending on how you manage attacks, and how your TH12s defend will decide the war.
    Last edited by MajorJohnson; October 9th, 2018 at 03:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshsgrandad View Post
    At face value, things look bad mate.
    To be fair, it isnt so bad a roster you have put down, looks like the MM had a senile moment. As already said, it can happen.
    I feel, if your spins are usually ok, then you maybe been unlucky this time, rather than lucky most often. Is possible the 8 isnt helping, but 1 account at the bottom, is unlikely to throw things so far off base.
    2 things tho. Cant have a 12.5, as 12 is the top hall. A x.5 usually means that half of the hall level is upgraded, usually the offence, whereas the other half (defence) is kept at previous hall level. If your 12 is fully maxed, then it is a fully max 12, not a .5
    Other thing. When arguing/debating mismatches, cant use oppo's potential to use potion, as a factor in the match. How does anybody know whether potion will be used?. The match is made irrelevant of anything that can be used to bump troop/defence levels post spin. It simply matches what it see's on home base at time spin is started.
    Now we can include the prep day account upgrade/power potion in war discussion, in yet another thread lol.
    12.5 means a TH12 with max Giga tesla. Otherwise it would be a TH11.5. Sorry for the confusion.

    You are correct with the potions. Thanks for pointing out.

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