So sad - The bots are back!!!

[BULIGO]

I'm not convinced they are doing something impossible for a normal user, they are just doing it on a scale and speed impossible for real humans. And using tricks that most of us aren't aware of.

They are using external programs to do the robbing, smiliar to wheater bots. Yes, almost anyone can do it, but that's cheating. Normal players don't cheat, so, it is impossible for them (us).
Not impossible for a human player? Really?
Hope it's not the official SuperCell opinion, else the happy P-M-L family is here to stay.

[Ajax]

They are using external programs to do the robbing, smiliar to wheater bots. Yes, almost anyone can do it, but that's cheating. Normal players don't cheat, so, it is impossible for them (us).
Not impossible for a human player? Really?
Hope it's not the official SuperCell opinion, else the happy P-M-L family is here to stay.

As far as I am aware, each individual action of the bot is one which a human could theoretically do. I am not aware of any secret backdoor they use.

They are cheating, and a huge problem because they can act much faster than any human, and because one person can control thousands of instances of them.

And of course, unlike tge wheater bots, or the clash farming bots (both of which are still cheating), these ones have an immediate and obvious detrimental effect on the specific farms they target.

[mdcfc]

So now we’ve sort of cleared the air, and we are all sort of friends again, anyone else fancy naming their farm after the L or P bot?
Disclaimer: I’m joking

We have to accept that it’s impossible for SC to stop people opening accounts and making them bots as fast as SC can shut down known ones. What really sucks is that as Chipfarm alluded to, they seem to somehow access farms in ways that the rest of us can’t. Surely the answer to this is to find and close whatever access loopholes they exploit to hit people’s farms. If Ajax theory is correct that they are doing nothing we can’t all do, but don’t know it, surely the onus is on SC to secure those hidden loopholes - is that really impossible?

[LynnK2015]

So now we’ve sort of cleared the air, and we are all sort of friends again, anyone else fancy naming their farm after the L or P bot?
Disclaimer: I’m joking

My farm is named Lynnsanity. Just kidding.

...We have to accept that it’s impossible for SC to stop people opening accounts and making them bots as fast as SC can shut down known ones. What really sucks is that as Chipfarm alluded to, they seem to somehow access farms in ways that the rest of us can’t. Surely the answer to this is to find and close whatever access loopholes they exploit to hit people’s farms. If Ajax theory is correct that they are doing nothing we can’t all do, but don’t know it, surely the onus is on SC to secure those hidden loopholes - is that really impossible?

I don't know when it happened but I've come to the realization that Supercell is putting their best effort to combat or at least mitigate the bot infestation because people are stealing and profiting from their intellectual property. Since their culture is keeping the game teams small to focus on quality, I think Team Hay Day struggles daily to allocate their limited resources to develop new content and combat the bots.

As much as I'd like to think there exists a group of specialists whose sole function is to detect bots and respond vigorously to them, I think it's a fantasy at this time because no one knows Hay Day as well as the game team.

[Ajax]

So now we’ve sort of cleared the air, and we are all sort of friends again, anyone else fancy naming their farm after the L or P bot?
Disclaimer: I’m joking

I know you are joking, but that is actually a large part of why we don't allow them to be named. There really are genuine players out there with farms named the same.

We have to accept that it’s impossible for SC to stop people opening accounts and making them bots as fast as SC can shut down known ones. What really sucks is that as Chipfarm alluded to, they seem to somehow access farms in ways that the rest of us can’t. Surely the answer to this is to find and close whatever access loopholes they exploit to hit people’s farms. If Ajax theory is correct that they are doing nothing we can’t all do, but don’t know it, surely the onus is on SC to secure those hidden loopholes - is that really impossible?

If they can do so without affecting the players who use them legitimately, yes. But I believe it is things like you can visit any farm on the global boat leaderboard and other similar things (not sure what though?). Once you find a way of visiting a farm, a bot can do it as often as it likes.

[mdcfc]

If they can do so without affecting the players who use them legitimately, yes. But I believe it is things like you can visit any farm on the global boat leaderboard and other similar things (not sure what though?). Once you find a way of visiting a farm, a bot can do it as often as it likes.

If these farms are normal gaming accounts like mine and yours, I don’t understand how a bot can visit a farm as often as it likes? I’m limited to hoodies, friends, global leaderboards, event leaderboards, advertisers in DD, last helpers - half of those have a finite time I can visit them. I can’t keep going back adinfinitum. These bots are clearly not constrained in the same way as the rest of us. If things like the individual leaderboards are providing a conduit for bots to function, then they should be closed down! Sure there are a small handful of farms who care greatly about where they sit on the boat or event leaderboard, there are way more farms that care about being robbed by bots.

[mdcfc]

I don't know when it happened but I've come to the realization that Supercell is putting their best effort to combat or at least mitigate the bot infestation because people are stealing and profiting from their intellectual property. Since their culture is keeping the game teams small to focus on quality, I think Team Hay Day struggles daily to allocate their limited resources to develop new content and combat the bots.

As much as I'd like to think there exists a group of specialists whose sole function is to detect bots and respond vigorously to them, I think it's a fantasy at this time because no one knows Hay Day as well as the game team.

Lynn you may be right that SC is putting its best effort into countering bots. However the rest of your post seems more likely to me, they don’t have sufficient resources with the small teams they operate. Frankly in a company with a $2bn annual revenue and a $900m profit that’s actually scandalous if it is the case. Even if these bot operators are profiting from Supercells intellectual property, if it isn’t impacting on their profit margin, where’s the imperative for SC to really deal with it? Customer satisfaction would perhaps be the only imperative, and as a customer that doesn’t seem to be a leading driver in their MO.

[venusioso]

The L bot visits our shops by farm id. Game is hacked and needs new encryption.

Banning the specific L farm that bought from our shops does not help, cause another L farm uses the same way to access our farms.

[Dove2017]

The L bot visits our shops by farm id. Game is hacked and needs new encryption.

Banning the specific L farm that bought from our shops does not help, cause another L farm uses the same way to access our farms.

Agreed. And what’s more, they are using supercells own backdoor that they created with the Greg and Tom buyer scripts. Solution - which I have offered before - REMOVE the buyer script option so nothing can buy automatically from the shops, only user end.

Sure, this means your tofu dogs are going to sit there indefinitely but that’s kind of your problem for posting them. The buyer bots are worse.

[BULIGO]

Agreed. And what’s more, they are using supercells own backdoor that they created with the Greg and Tom buyer scripts. Solution - which I have offered before - REMOVE the buyer script option so nothing can buy automatically from the shops, only user end.

Sure, this means your tofu dogs are going to sit there indefinitely but that’s kind of your problem for posting them. The buyer bots are worse.

The best post in the entire thread.