A comparison between the old and the new loot system: Influence on TH 7 - TH10

[Akali]

Maybe they will give us a week of 1gem boosts during christmas week. That would put a ton of loot into the economy.

To be honest, I was surprised, and disappointed, that they did not give a 1 gem boost in the update for the period up to new year. It would have been a nice xmas gift.

It's not too late SC, please do that now. The economy desperately needs an injection of loot.

Remember that as we all level up, we all sink a tonne of loot into expensive upgrades. This loot is lost from the economy.

Collectors have remained at the same level since TH8, with only 1 extra of each being added since the game originally came out. But upgrade prices have rocketed with new defences and 2 new THs.

[bengan112]

To be honest, I was surprised, and disappointed, that they did not give a 1 gem boost in the update for the period up to new year. It would have been a nice xmas gift.

It's not too late SC, please do that now. The economy desperately needs an injection of loot.

Remember that as we all level up, we all sink a tonne of loot into expensive upgrades. This loot is lost from the economy.

Collectors have remained at the same level since TH8, with only 1 extra of each being added since the game originally came out. But upgrade prices have rocketed with new defences and 2 new THs.

Lvl 11 mines hasnt been here forever..

[Moomoo]

To be honest, I was surprised, and disappointed, that they did not give a 1 gem boost in the update for the period up to new year. It would have been a nice xmas gift.

It's not too late SC, please do that now. The economy desperately needs an injection of loot.

Remember that as we all level up, we all sink a tonne of loot into expensive upgrades. This loot is lost from the economy.

Collectors have remained at the same level since TH8, with only 1 extra of each being added since the game originally came out. But upgrade prices have rocketed with new defences and 2 new THs.

yes i was to but then i saw the update promo again with a picture of an inferno tower with a townhall level 9, then it stuck me, hey you could monetize this update by giving th8 1x xbow and th9 1x inferno (v1 or 2 only) and the punters would be singing SC praise for coming to there rescue, while they SC, would be laughing all the way to SoftBank.. Pardon the pun..
Not saying this will happen but it wouldn't surprise me as its a pretty vanilla freemium practice.

[Akali]

Never going to happen, as that would totally imbalance the game. Want the Xbows, go TH9. Want Inferno, go TH10.

The same will be true for the next big defence, at TH11.

And remember, TH10 suffers from a huge loot penalty. The pay off for that are the extra toys.

[imthecomputerguy]

Terrible Update loot system Supercell
Please just admit this one and revert the loot system back to the original.
Playing COC like this is very difficult and made me crazy with the new stupid loot system.

I am a farmer from the midwest, and this update totally destroys the ability to farm! When I inquired about this in our clan today, everyone that was on, agrees that nobody is seeing any abandoned bases anymore. WHat Happened? How do you go from seeing an abandoned base in about 1 out of 20 bases, to none at all? I dont get this. The fabric of the game has totally been changed. It doesnt even make sense any more.. everything that was normal is now NOT normal. The rules of farming have changed forever. I dont get this... my name is SWIM_DAD and I have now spent all my Gold, and will sit under the guise of a shield, and wait til I get enough money to upgrade all my walls. I dont like this anymore... I can only hope to play the game like this until January when the next update comes out... THIS WAS A BAD IDEA!

[PureAwesome]

I am a farmer from the midwest, and this update totally destroys the ability to farm! When I inquired about this in our clan today, everyone that was on, agrees that nobody is seeing any abandoned bases anymore. WHat Happened? How do you go from seeing an abandoned base in about 1 out of 20 bases, to none at all? I dont get this. The fabric of the game has totally been changed. It doesnt even make sense any more.. everything that was normal is now NOT normal. The rules of farming have changed forever. I dont get this... my name is SWIM_DAD and I have now spent all my Gold, and will sit under the guise of a shield, and wait til I get enough money to upgrade all my walls. I dont like this anymore... I can only hope to play the game like this until January when the next update comes out... THIS WAS A BAD IDEA!

The reason you don't see any abandoned bases is because of the new update. Usually after a new update all the inactives come back to check it out and collect their resources. It should be back to normal in a little while, but the new loot system will probably make it so it will be way different then before

[tolis]

I'm a TH8 player. Before the update I had almost maxed out my gold and elixir storages, which I need for the expensive upgrades of tesla, archer towers, and the upgrades in laboratory. In the past 2 days from the update, I am completely ripped off. The moment I log out I get attacked from TH9 and loose 250k+ from gold and elixir, plus the 1500+ dark elixir. Even after the continuous ripping off, I have 2,5 mil gold and elixir, but still loose 250+ from every attack. There is no way I can maintain my resources to be able to make the necessary upgrades.

Probably in the next couple days I will completely stop the upgrades and logging in the game, and wait until I can have a full free day in which I will try to collect gold or elixir for even one upgrade. I have paid for this extra worker, and now I cannot get even the other workers to make any upgrades. Of course the golem and valkyries upgrades, seems like a big joke for a th8.

Even though my walls are maxed out and my weapons are almost maxed out except 2 teslas (lvl5) and 3 archer towers, I have a pretty decent setup, I still cannot have any chance to defend against even the lousiest th9 players, since with 270+ elixir bonus anyone with 10 dragons, or 30 balloons and some spells can completely rip me off, and still have earning. There was a threshold for the elixir earned in each attack for the th9 against th8 (190 earned elixir) which now is completely overpassed. No one has to have any strategy, since even if you close your eyes and throw dragons, or balloons, or a bunch of 20-25 giants lvl6 and some rage spells, you have a 3-star victory, against a th8.

I cannot upgrade to th9 since there is NO WAY to collect the 6mil elixir for the giant upgrade, and the only viable solution is to log in once every 15-20 days, on some of my completely free day to try to gather the 2.5 mil gold or 2.5+ mil elixir.

For a good th7 player with dragons (lv2) and some rage, the output loot is 300k+ and is still a very good solution with plenty of earnings. Until now I didn't have any attacks from th7, but it seems in the future there's gonna be plenty of it.

This is a sad day for one of my beloved games.

P.S In all the attacks in the castle I had 6 wizs (lvl 5) or 1 dragon(lvl3) and 1 wiz (lvl6), or 5 balloons lvl6. None was able to defend against any combination of th9.

[GotMedieval]

The new system clearly does not meet its stated goals of making it easier to save up for big upgrades. At least not for my trophy level.

I'm a nearly-maxed TH7, saving up the 2 million gold for TH8.

If I'm raiding people who are near the cap for storages, in gold and elixer:

A capped TH7 used to offer me 200K + collectors. Now it's 250K + collectors: 25% more than before.
A capped TH8 used to offer me 220K + collectors. Now it's 300K + collectors: 36% more than before.
A capped TH9 used to offer me 300K + collectors. Now it's 350K + collectors: 16% more than before.
A capped TH10 used to offer me 400K + collector's. Now it's 400K + collectors: same as before.

If I'm being raided when my storages are near the cap:

If raided by a TH7, I used to risk 250K + collectors. Now it's 300K + collectors: 20% more than before.
If raided by a TH8, I used to risk 225K + collectors. Now it's 270K + collectors: 20% more than before.
If raided by a TH9, I used to risk 125K + collectors. Now it's 150K + collectors: 20% more than before.
If raided by a TH10, I used to risk 62.5K + collectors. Now it's 75K + collectors: 20% more than before.

So, under the new system, I'm a much more appealing target to everyone, TH7-TH10. But only TH7 and TH8 offer me more reward for a raid than I risk by coming out from under my shield. And this is only when I'm raiding people who are near capped. Raiding TH9 or TH10 is, on average, clearly a losing proposition, given the overall 20% increased risk to my storages when I break shield.

But what about people who don't have their storages full? The rewards from raiding people who are idle with full collectors or who have relatively empty coffers haven't changed. But my risk has gone up a flat 20%. So there's no way to make up for the increased risk by raiding these guys.

In order for the new system to increase my available loot overall, capped storages in TH7 and TH8 have to become much more common in the attack queue than they were under the old system. But TH7 at least is much more vulnerable now than under the old system. (And I'd assume the same for TH8, but I haven't done the math.) So how's that going to happen, exactly?

[Ichut]

For the first time, i spent 3 hours raiding and gained 500k of so each. I have a th10 base, lvl 113. Pre-patch i would have stolen, 2mil already.... What is wrong? I feel like im being penalised for not buying gems to upgrade my buildings... So frustrating. I'll give it a week then i'm done with this game.

[Alexto]

So, under the new system, I'm a much more appealing target to everyone, TH7-TH10.

Only TH7's and 8's will raid you, you have the loot penalty to protect you, and a good base means only TH8's can attack you. This update was not for TH7's though, it was for Th9s and 10's because they have the big upgrades, and its alot harder to find loot as a TH9+. This update made it easier for them. Th7's is the easiest TH level in the game and they don't need any improvements.