Siege machine in low wars

[George1971]

That would be a pain for small wars. Any clan that doesn’t have a th12 can easily make a new account and rush it to th12 for donations. Clans unwilling to do that might at times face a disadvantage.

It would be a pain for people who like to do little small wars with mini accounts, but people who do this are shutting out genuine new players in beginning clans. I see the change as good for fresh players.

Include a TH12 in a small war sure, by all means. The other side will know upfront that they can expect to face siege engines.

The change suggested involved war CC attack troops being donated on the war map. These will be easier to donate well before you actually want to attack, unlike the current situation where you can’t do multiplayer attacks with your CC if you are holding CC troops for war.

[George1971]

People are now saying, here in the forums, rush an account to TH12, don’t use it in wars, just use it to donate siege engines.

This is obviously a hole in game mechanics. Please fix it ASAP, before every clan has one of these dummy rushed accounts for donations and will be so upset when it is fixed later.

[2222]

People are now saying, here in the forums, rush an account to TH12, don’t use it in wars, just use it to donate siege engines.

This is obviously a hole in game mechanics. Please fix it ASAP, before every clan has one of these dummy rushed accounts for donations and will be so upset when it is fixed later.

How is it a hole in the game mechanics? It is beneficial to have a th12 in your clan to donate siege machines and max troops. It has always been beneficial to have a higher account to donate good troops. This just happens to be a very good troop. There are lots of reasons to have different types of accounts that benefit the clan. The second account I ever created was back when th9 was newly released and my clan loved having a dragon in their cc. So, I rushed an account to get dragons and used it to donate to the clan. I currently have an account in my clan that is very low on builder base trophies. It is used to quickly max out clan games points. It is a strategy game and that involves your clan roster as well.

[wasim9035]

No offence but Coc is not for your family n friends alone..this feature was added to make the gameplay easy...n if u wanna play easy get th12 in clan...expand ua clan OP

[AliElHadi]

Your solution is not to take any TH10s into war so you get matched to Th9 and below, as for forcing people not to use siege machines against you in war, this is too silly, I can't find a proper answer to it.
You're speaking about a specific problem that concerns your clan and every clan that is unable to recruit a TH12, it's not a problem for everybody else, your clan needs to be fixed not the game, if you want to keep it as a family/friends clan, you have to deal with the consequences.

[George1971]

How is it a hole in the game mechanics? It is beneficial to have a th12 in your clan to donate siege machines and max troops. It has always been beneficial to have a higher account to donate good troops. This just happens to be a very good troop. There are lots of reasons to have different types of accounts that benefit the clan. The second account I ever created was back when th9 was newly released and my clan loved having a dragon in their cc. So, I rushed an account to get dragons and used it to donate to the clan. I currently have an account in my clan that is very low on builder base trophies. It is used to quickly max out clan games points. It is a strategy game and that involves your clan roster as well.

It is a hole in game mechanics to allow for easy leveling up of new accounts. This is the reason for not allowing resource donations from player to player. It is a hole because cheap strong accounts destabilize the game, they cause it to be unfair to players playing within the original intention. This rushing of a spare account to TH12 to donate the TH12-special troop is the same. It is unfair to lower level players who don't have the same ease of rushing a spare account to TH12. It is a "hole", as in a broken thing, as opposed to a "feature", because it is bad for the game by making it harder for new players.

Rushing an account to be the dragon donor was not so bad, because only high level accounts could accept dragons. An all TH4-TH5 clan could happily war another, with everyone content that no one would have a surprise dragon.

Valkyries were the first real problem. TH3 can have a valkyrie in their CC, and in a genuine TH3-5 war, real beginners are cruelly confounded by the high level valkryie. It is a bit bad with the valkyrie comes from a high level player in the war party, but at least the defending valkryie can only come from a genuine valkyrie donor in the war line-up.

Valkyries in attack CCs of TH3-5? Not really a problem, because a single valkryie has big limitations.

Baby dragons were worse, because low level accounts could bring an attack baby that come from elsewhere, not from the line-up. However, it wasn't terrible, because a single baby can only do so much.

Siege engines are worse because:

1. A single siege engine makes a big difference;
2. Siege engines are frustration many serious players, all the TH10-11 clans lacking a TH12 donor.

I too have mini accounts, and access to kids accounts, that are useful for easy completion of clan game quests, destroy three research buildings, destroy three clock towers, etc. I too am rushing a TH11 account to TH12, now that I see our clan needs one. I don't care about the clan games, they are a silly-fun distraction that gives nice rewards. I do care about wars, and about how any TH11max clan thinking to "play fair" is being stuffed by the opposition being able to freely import seige engines to get a decided winning advantage.

[George1971]

Your solution is not to take any TH10s into war so you get matched to Th9 and below, as for forcing people not to use siege machines against you in war, this is too silly, I can't find a proper answer to it.
You're speaking about a specific problem that concerns your clan and every clan that is unable to recruit a TH12, it's not a problem for everybody else, your clan needs to be fixed not the game, if you want to keep it as a family/friends clan, you have to deal with the consequences.

I assume this was a tongue-in-cheek response. If you want to keep you clan as a honest straightforward clan, you have to accept that the new developments have ruined it for you.

The answer is: Only war participants can donate attack war CC troops, which can be done on the war map.

For clans that have already rushed their TH12, they just have to include that account in the war line-up.

[George1971]

Ok, I’ve done it. My mature TH11 is now TH12 donating wall wreckers. War weight is above the near-max TH11s, so it will be left out of war. The max wall wrecker in TH10 CCs now gives them a killer advantage over all other TH10s.

I reckon its it’s unfair to TH10 clans, but ok, SuperCell and most here think it is fair that all serious clans have access to a TH12 account.

I though seige engines were expensive, but I see I get 20 or 30 wall wreckers for the cost of one wall piece upgrade. Pretty cheap.

Rushing an account to TH12 is definitely good for the clan.

[Duzic]

I agree with OP. Unless a TH 12 is in the war, SM should not be allowed. Creates total imbalance.

[Neme515]

I agree with you, we have now got one of our strong TH9 gonna rush to 12, just to help get the siege machine. The only future problem is gonna be 100% for them and 100 % for us, I can only see there being draws in the future.