Yes another Th 12 No Eagle thread→look at the pics⚠️

[Prutser]

So the prevailing argument is that the same base has one value while matching and then has another completely different value when the bases are arranged in order of defense strength. I am sceptical.

The photos that began this thread are evidence of something. Maybe we should follow the evidence.

Illuminati confirmed !

Serious tho, why is there so much focus on this non issue?

[wotanwaton]

Illuminati confirmed !
Serious tho, why is there so much focus on this non issue?

because it seems that the missing ea is not weighted as it should.

there was a real big issue with ea extra damage to golem and not more damage at lv 3 which supercell hasnt realised until it was discussed a long time.
it might be possible that there are a lot more unknown failure in the game.

[MajorJohnson]

Yes, they said war weight - ie the weight used for matching. You are disputing that based on looking at the map order. But many of us believe that the map order (and gold) is now totally different from the matching weight. So looking at the map tells you nothing about what's going on in the actual matching. And therefore there's no evidence that the ghost EA isn't being counted. All we've got is SC's statement. They're unlikely to be lying. They might have made a mistake, but without any actual evidence of it, it's more likely they are correct.

I have tested a number of wars with all kinds of unique bases as well as visited other clans, participated in wars with TH12s with unplaced eagles, and have been informed of other unplaced eagle testing.

It is my opinion that you are completely wrong with your theory.

There is NO ghost weight or bases being matched differently from their offense or gold weight.

What you perceive as gold weight not being matching weight is a combination of things they changed. More weight is on the initial placement of items and the matchmaker will attempt to closely match town halls. The MM takes offense and defense of the whole clan and looks for clans with similar #s of town halls, and similar weights, this is why rushed clans tend to match other rushed clans, or engineered depending on your definition.

Unplaced eagles DO NOT count in the matchmaking process at any level.

[Freshspown]

I have tested a number of wars with all kinds of unique bases as well as visited other clans, participated in wars with TH12s with unplaced eagles, and have been informed of other unplaced eagle testing.

It is my opinion that you are completely wrong with your theory.

There is NO ghost weight or bases being matched differently from their offense or gold weight.

What you perceive as gold weight not being matching weight is a combination of things they changed. More weight is on the initial placement of items and the matchmaker will attempt to closely match town halls. The MM takes offense and defense of the whole clan and looks for clans with similar #s of town halls, and similar weights, this is why rushed clans tend to match other rushed clans, or engineered depending on your definition.

Unplaced eagles DO NOT count in the matchmaking process at any level.

Really? This thread is 2 days old and you already did multiple wars, enough to proof that unplaced eagles do not count?

Color me skeptical. I sure would like to see your proof.

[wotanwaton]

Really? This thread is 2 days old and you already did multiple wars, enough to proof that unplaced eagles do not count?

Color me skeptical. I sure would like to see your proof.

i bet he mean the whole time since th 12 release.

[Freshspown]

i bet he mean the whole time since th 12 release.

That would make more sense, and kind of random that he tested and focused on eagles. But possible.

Anyway, I still would like to see some proof.

[MajorJohnson]

Really? This thread is 2 days old and you already did multiple wars, enough to proof that unplaced eagles do not count?

Color me skeptical. I sure would like to see your proof.

There have been more threads than just this one, it is opinion through some testing and various reports since the release of TH12.

I don't have any proof and any proof I may provide would be no more convincing than OP.

[AFrostyBlaze]

I wonder how many accounts might still have unplaced eagles or if it even matters. still seems like a pointless discussion to me.

if you'd ask me i still think unplaced eagles or not having them is putting many clans at a big disadvantage from the start of a war.

currently matched against another asian clan stuck in the old way of engineering trying to run a lot of 9.11s and now we have a 9 eagle and nearly similar inferno advantage against them. say goodbye to their 13 war streak when the dust settles after this one.

on a side note to the thread. we've never seen a th12 in war without their eagle but i still am convinced that regardless if it didn't have one placed that it would still match a normal th12 with eagle in majority of wars. there are still times it might not though but that's just because that can happen on a normal basis. some wars we are down 2, even 6 th12s but it's usually compensated for having close to double the th11 count of the th12 disparity

[TankSinatra]

currently matched against another asian clan stuck in the old way of engineering trying to run a lot of 9.11s and now we have a 9 eagle and nearly similar inferno advantage against them. say goodbye to their 13 war streak when the dust settles after this one.

I doubt the 9.11s are hurting them, rather they probably helped put together a 13 streak that they couldn't have otherwise. In about 12 hours I'll be sitting on a 100 streak, and our 9.11s have been a big help along the way. Bangkok B is pretty much all 9.11s, doesn't seem to hurt them.

It'll also be a lot less dominant as people add 12s. A 9.11 won't help as much if its a sideshow to a 12v12 brawl.

[samratulangi]

I doubt the 9.11s are hurting them, rather they probably helped put together a 13 streak that they couldn't have otherwise. In about 12 hours I'll be sitting on a 100 streak, and our 9.11s have been a big help along the way. Bangkok B is pretty much all 9.11s, doesn't seem to hurt them.

It'll also be a lot less dominant as people add 12s. A 9.11 won't help as much if its a sideshow to a 12v12 brawl.

Congrats and welcome to triple ws club, hopefully we dont match, lol