?????gold weight?????Originally Posted by 2222
?????gold weight?????
Check out the war sub forum for lots of discussion on these topics. This thread will probably be moved there. In the past we could see the defensive weight of a base by looking at the amount of gold in the storages on FCs or on battle day in wars (or just by looking at what was available to be looted in the war attack). The map order was based on this. However, players started to discuss the gold weight no longer being used over in the war subforum. Then Darian confirmed some weights were adjusted recently. The gold weights were not, though, so that sort of confirmed that the gold weights are no longer the weights used by the matchmaker, at least not all of them, as some of them have changed. You can’t just look at the war map and know now that based #4 is “heavier” for the war match algorithm than base #5.
Last edited by 2222; August 5th, 2018 at 07:30 PM.
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For example this thread: https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...ive-war-weight
I would caution that it is all speculation. But it's something I've been suggesting for months that map order is no longer related to how clans are matched
Various data posts: Who plays what? CWL data 1 (stars), 2 (3* rates), 3 (rosters), 4 (start times and other) Data at end of old Legends And (non-data) how max bases are ordered in war
So you are saying that the speculation is that gold weight no is no longer a reflection of defense and is not used to order based on the war map any more? Or am I misunderstanding?
I am saying some of the weights reflected in the gold storages are no longer the weights used by the matchmaker. Some might still be accurate, but others are not. Thus, a base might “weigh” more on defense than a base higher than it on the map. That used to not be the case.
edit: also, as far as the ”changes” to weights go, they seem to be for the better. Infernos and eagles definitely seem to weigh less than they used to.
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Well, it was speculation prior to comments by Darian for sure. Onyx was the first one I saw suggest it and I started paying attention to our wars too and it seemed to be true. Then Darian said weights were adjusted, but we could see the gold weights weren’t, so that turned the speculation closer to confirmation. Add to that the comment from Darian that unplaced eagles would count in war weight, yet we can see in threads like this one that they don’t appear to count in the gold weight, it is again moving this speculation closer to confirmation.
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^this. Not sure why there is such confusion around this.
map ranking shows the base without the eagle placed as being easier than bases with an eagle. This isnt surprising. But that unplaced eagle counted when the match was being drawn. This too, given what Darian has said, is also not surprising...
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No, it seems the gold weight is used to rank the bases on the map. But no longer used behind the scenes to draw an opponent.
The base without the eagle placed is ranked lower, and has less gold weight, because its not employing the eagle. By when the matchmaker searches for an opponent the eagle counts (according to Darian).
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Ok. Thanks to the gasps who broke it down for me. I’ve read a bit of that thread but certainly not all 13 pages. So many good discussions over there it’s hard to follow all of them. So basically, looking at gold weight for matchmaking purposes is pointless now. Seeing bases lined up like that is just hard to get accustomed to after so many years otherwise.
Some very convoluted theories here on "ghost war weight".
Can I add one more theory?
Maybe it just doesn't work the way it should. Maybe Darian believes it should weigh in, but it doesn't, just as the intended removal of eagles doing triple damage to golems was announced but not implemented.
Sometimes you just have to follow the evidence. Evidence is starting to mount that the unplaced defenses are NOT being weighed.
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