Can we please get a sticky to collect data on super long war search?

[Ripple1972]

Full disclosure, I didn’t read all 14 pages. If matchmaking cannot accurately measure offense and defense (rise and popularity of engineering) and SC’s solution is to not match, I would question their caring about war. I have had my th11 (engineered) on the bench for 45 days as I cannot match when that base is included.

You can argue matchmaking was flawed in the past but if matchmaking cannot make a match it’s broken.

[MajorJohnson]

I'm not too sure how this thread got onto engineering, other than that some people know that engineers are finding a harder time matching.

But it isn't about engineering, it is about whether your roster is unusual. And whether it is unusual or not is not something SC decides, it is simply down to whether other clans close enough are also searching.

You say "the closest clan searching at the same time id fine". But your clan is unusual in that. There are many more tgreads complaining about bad matches than there are complaining about long search times in war.

And you say we all need to know how big a problem it is. Well it is clear it is not that big a problem across the game. If it were, we would have hundreds of threads about it, like we do for clouds (same type of thing for multiplayer, but affects far more players)., or for mismatches in war. But we only have a few such threads, so game-wide, it is clearly not a big problem.

For those clans who are affected, it is certainly a major issue. But the numbers of clans affected is clearly not that high.

And a further point (already made above, but it bears repeating) is that unlike the mismatch situation, SC can see, easily, from the raw data whether average clan search is taking too long, or whether there are too many outlying clans whose search is taking a lot longer. So a thread for them to gather data, or to let them know how big a problem we have, is completely unnecessary.

I've seen up to half of all the threads in the clan wars section in the last days about long searches so clearly it IS an issue.

We have been searching for 36 hours since our last war, currently going on 18.5 hour search since we last spun.

We have already cut half our clan out of war in an attempt to find a war and be more balanced, now we should cut 3/4 of the clan and run a 10 man war?

I was going to do some more work on my ANCHOR TH12 but the thought of ending up like blombardo and endlessly searching for war is why im letting our last attempt find a match, and if not, then just opt out all my accounts and find another game to play.

Now if I leave the game as an anchor 12, that may end up that our clan with around 20 unique players also follow suit and leave the game too since I do the most donating, clan points, choose our lineups for war and recruit new members.

Why are you ignoring people who have a real problem with the game and acting like nothing is wrong.

Matchmaker is BROKEN

[Warios]

I've seen up to half of all the threads in the clan wars section in the last days about long searches so clearly it IS an issue.

We have been searching for 36 hours since our last war, currently going on 18.5 hour search since we last spun.

We have already cut half our clan out of war in an attempt to find a war and be more balanced, now we should cut 3/4 of the clan and run a 10 man war?

I was going to do some more work on my ANCHOR TH12 but the thought of ending up like blombardo and endlessly searching for war is why im letting our last attempt find a match, and if not, then just opt out all my accounts and find another game to play.

Now if I leave the game as an anchor 12, that may end up that our clan with around 20 unique players also follow suit and leave the game too since I do the most donating, clan points, choose our lineups for war and recruit new members.

Why are you ignoring people who have a real problem with the game and acting like nothing is wrong.

Matchmaker is BROKEN

What is the line up you are having trouble matching with? Is it common enough that there should be a comparable clan that runs the same type or is it out of the norm like th OP's lineup that perhaps there is not someone that is running the same type of breakdown, and there just is no clan the MM can pair you with.

[Ajax]

I've seen up to half of all the threads in the clan wars section in the last days about long searches so clearly it IS an issue.

We have been searching for 36 hours since our last war, currently going on 18.5 hour search since we last spun.

We have already cut half our clan out of war in an attempt to find a war and be more balanced, now we should cut 3/4 of the clan and run a 10 man war?

I was going to do some more work on my ANCHOR TH12 but the thought of ending up like blombardo and endlessly searching for war is why im letting our last attempt find a match, and if not, then just opt out all my accounts and find another game to play.

Now if I leave the game as an anchor 12, that may end up that our clan with around 20 unique players also follow suit and leave the game too since I do the most donating, clan points, choose our lineups for war and recruit new members.

Why are you ignoring people who have a real problem with the game and acting like nothing is wrong.

Matchmaker is BROKEN

Why did you quote my post, then respond to something else entirely?

[MajorJohnson]

What is the line up you are having trouble matching with? Is it common enough that there should be a comparable clan that runs the same type or is it out of the norm like th OP's lineup that perhaps there is not someone that is running the same type of breakdown, and there just is no clan the MM can pair you with.

We run an engineered lineup, some of our 11s would be classed as rushed but we have big defense at the top. I am not going to share the specifics of why i choose our roster breakdown publically in a strategy game

We finally matched after 38 hours since the end of our last war, 21 hours since last spin.

We lost 4 clan members due to search taking too long or not being included in war. I also lost a whole day endlessly spinning war so just trying to find a war for our clan and is impacting the ability to play the game at all.

[MajorJohnson]

Why did you quote my post, then respond to something else entirely?

Not sure what you mean but it looks right to me.

[Ajax]

Not sure what you mean but it looks right to me.

I mean that none of the points you made had anything to do with the post of mine you quoted.

So I don't know why you quoted my post. You don't have to use "reply with quote", you can just do a reply if you are adding to the thread without responding to anything specific.

[Warios]

We run an engineered lineup, some of our 11s would be classed as rushed but we have big defense at the top. I am not going to share the specifics of why i choose our roster breakdown publically in a strategy game

We finally matched after 38 hours since the end of our last war, 21 hours since last spin.

We lost 4 clan members due to search taking too long or not being included in war. I also lost a whole day endlessly spinning war so just trying to find a war for our clan and is impacting the ability to play the game at all.

I understand you want to keep your line up secret, but if it is anything like you used to run a year ago, do you actually have to wonder why you are not getting a match when for the last while SC has been tweaking the MM?

You do know, that it was wars like these that forced SC's hand to make drastic changes to how the MM works.







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[Starcast99]

I understand you want to keep your line up secret, but if it is anything like you used to run a year ago, do you actually have to wonder why you are not getting a match when for the last while SC has been tweaking the MM?

You do know, that it was wars like these that forced SC's hand to make drastic changes to how the MM works.







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This is blaming and shaming trying to scare people to stop posting something you don’t agree with. I may not use engineering but. He has a right to complain about super long war search without being blamed and shamed. After you scare people into not posting you can say “ it can’t be a problem no one is posting about it” nice plan but we can see right through it.

[Warios]

This is blaming and shaming trying to scare people to stop posting something you don’t agree with. I may not use engineering but. He has a right to complain about super long war search without being blamed and shamed. After you scare people into not posting you can say “ it can’t be a problem no one is posting about it” nice plan but we can see right through it.

Ok how about i just quote his posts from this same forum, that the pictures came from.

Thought I'd post a break from the norm and give a snapshot of a good matchup along with a breakdown of all the weights. The offense levels are averaged bases on the approximate TH the base can attack.



Do you get good matchups? How does your clan do it?

Ok here is our current war breakdown with all the Gold Weights and currently sitting at 60-52 and victory assured. We would have had the perfect perfect war (60 stars in 20 attacks) but our TH3 failed on the defenseless TH8



On paper it looked as if the enemy team could perfect us but in the end failed on our top base and most of our mid.

Here is our current war, 3 hours to go, 60-18



Looks like the clan is trying to engineer but has too many low level heroes on top, too much defense on their defenseless.

That better for you Starcast99 ? Because it is not shaming Quoting something from these forums.