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    i think if he does he will sit around the th9s, based on the weight,eagle and the infernos will also buff the weight tremendously. Also if hes willing to put in the hours to goto max offensively good on him

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    Until now i can say with traps eagle and all single target and some multi target defenses dropped he already is way heavier than our th.9.5 with maxed th10 buildings.

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    All of the th12 in my war on both sides are sitting above the rest so I believe it
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    Interesting discussion; I wouldn't upgrade a 1 cannon but 10.5 / 9.11 I would move forward with all defenses at L1 to see how the matchups are affected.

    From the maxer side, we keep upgrading our TH12's in the hopes of putting engineers in the rear view mirror; time will tell...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skrags View Post
    Then he will need to build the Eagle. As defence weight is non linear, the defence weight of his base will go through the roof, and this is exactly why SC have changed tack here.
    Nope, it will maximum reach a weight of 95k because I have seen a base with lvl 1 defences with 4 xbows and 2 infernos and it's weight was about 80k and adding up another eagle would add another 12k (not sure 15k?) That's not a problem at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpertSAQ View Post
    Nope, it will maximum reach a weight of 95k because I have seen a base with lvl 1 defences with 4 xbows and 2 infernos and it's weight was about 80k and adding up another eagle would add another 12k (not sure 15k?) That's not a problem at all

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    You could be right but don't assume linearity. Eagle & giga added to such a low weight base might add more than the sum of the parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bastl2 View Post
    My clan currently has two defensless accounts in the war matchmaking, one is run by me and one belongs to a friend. He really doesnt like not beeing maxed out on the offense side, so he is considering to drop all defenses on level 1 and go to th12.

    I wonder if somebody has some experience with such "rushed" bases in the war matchmaking.

    I really dont want to stand in his way as hr would have an new incentive to play the game more and also having an second th12 to donate alle the cool stuff would be nice, but im a little worried that if it turns out influencing our mm too bad he wont play at all soon as all he cares about in coc are wars anyway.

    I know forum is probably not the best place to discuss engineering stuff but I will anyway .
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    With the top of the map soon to be out of reach of th11's, engineered 11's will not be worth much as you cannot effect the outcome of the war as much as you used too. Especially if th12 vs th11 is the new Th11 vs Th10 3 star rate.

    You still see some success against other engineered clans or a lucky war here or there where there are no th12's. It's probably best at this point to put on your big boy pants and learn how to attack properly. Without full defenses, you will be like a 9.5 defending against a th11.

    I feel bad for those th11 double dip specialists that spam lavaloon......big learning curve for them.

    Your friend probably will not like what he finds with all defenses at level 1. Eagle and infernos are just dead weight without high level points and splash damage backing them up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bastl2 View Post
    My clan currently has two defensless accounts in the war matchmaking, one is run by me and one belongs to a friend. He really doesnt like not beeing maxed out on the offense side, so he is considering to drop all defenses on level 1 and go to th12.

    I wonder if somebody has some experience with such "rushed" bases in the war matchmaking.

    I really dont want to stand in his way as hr would have an new incentive to play the game more and also having an second th12 to donate alle the cool stuff would be nice, but im a little worried that if it turns out influencing our mm too bad he wont play at all soon as all he cares about in coc are wars anyway.

    I know forum is probably not the best place to discuss engineering stuff but I will anyway .
    This is a great place to discuss. Personally, I think the level 1 of each defense is about the most inefficient war weight you can take on, so my advice to your mate would be to hold off on 12 and work on upgrading from the ground up. Pick some point defenses and max them out first. Then pick some other defenses, etc. Keep 5 builders busy. Work on that for the rest of this year while we wait to see what happens without going to th12. There might be more changes coming that would make it even worse to be a th12 with weak defenses than it already is currently.

    Edit, I will also add that I don’t think being defenseless is the best help in war anyway, even without regard to wanting to go to th12. He would be better off having 5 builders working on archer towers. Drop them on prep days of course...
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    I hope you get matched up with a fully loaded TH12 at the top with the siege weapons. It shall be interesting. Don't goto th12 you got a problem or goto TH12 you got a problem. You could based upon you war roster still be matched up with a th12 even if you choose not to upgrade to TH12. Good luck.
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