That’s one nail in the engineering coffin..how about another?

[xXXCHRISXXx]

your “righteousness” tramps on other peoples freedon to choose how they want to play the game

Haha, marvelous, just marvelous.

I’ll let you in on the big secret;
I don’t have a say in what Supercell implements into THEIR product. It’s theirs. I don’t work for them. I just play. But thanks for blaming us!
Supercell closed the window on you man, you’re going to have to deal with it. It was never your freedom anyways. It’s their game all the way around. Their ball, their court.

[TankSinatra]

i dont “play with fire” as you put it ... i play what i enjoy ... and that engeneering base i have, never was a reason we win war

Don't call it engineered then. If it isn't helpful at winning wars, its just a mistake.

Nobody promised you an unchanging game, in fact we'd all hate it if we were still maxing at th9. My engie accounts are all salvageable even if a harder nerf drops, though odds are slim I'll put the time into all of them. As full defenseless you're backed into a worse corner, but you should have known that was a possibility.

[TankSinatra]

Supercell closed the window on you man, you’re going to have to deal with it. It was never your freedom anyways. It’s their game all the way around. Their ball, their court.

I've said something similar to maxxers, over & over through the years. It remains true when the wind shifts against engies.

[xxTIJxx]

No, you don't.. And yes, they are.

As for the post above it.. Discrimination is best left in the real world. This is a game, and belongs to SC. Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose.

But now we have the benefit of hindsight, Lop sided accounts had the bigger impact in war, but carried the biggest risk of being nullified due to a change.
Minimax, they should be ok, as are already half way to being balanced up. Our choice, roster engineering, is ok, because the individual accounts are balanced anyway, so any move to negate it has no effect to the actual account. Don't know how long you spent on the d/less, but am sure you used it well, for the time you had it alive and kicking. Actually, they are still valid, for now, just restricted within current hall.
But everyone has a build choice when they start a new account, and lop siders simply took advantage of "today", simply to steamroll oppo bases. Well mate, it is tomorrow now, and all those lop sided accounts are counting down the days. Don't think anyone will miss them much TBH, they were built without any forethought, simply to take advantage.

if discrimanation are best left to outside world, then why are you nurfing engeeneers ... you cannot simply undo wrong by doing more wrong things

My engeenered base never had impact in our wars ... i have it because i simply enjoy building something different (already done max th11).

And if ppl say defenseless bases have such an impact in war ... they could have started defenseless base too ... but they did not ... very likely because its too hard (precisely why i did it)

hell ... i dont care about engineering base having impact on war ... thats not the reason i did it ... you want - put war weight on bases based on their attack ability only ... that should solved your “fear” of engeeniring bases in war ... but do not take it away as some ppl spent ages doing that challenge

[TankSinatra]

if discrimanation are best left to outside world, then why are you nurfing engeeneers

Who's this "you"? I hope you're not under the impression you can argue with SC here. They don't get into back & forth arguments with us players.

[nerfedname]

As i mention in previous post ... engineering bases and power potion have hardly any effect on our clan war outcome

Then why build one?

in your quest for “EQUALITY” (sounds waaaay too commy to me) ... you crushed FREEDOM for other ppl to choose ... not to mention their efforts (many many years of effort)

lol @ "commy"

Poor you, played with fire and got burned. All those years your enemies wasted maxing their bases only to watch you and your knee high accounts thrash them. It’s such a shame. It’s only bothersome now that it directly affects you huh?

^this. Touche...

[xXXCHRISXXx]

And if ppl say defenseless bases have such an impact in war ... they could have started defenseless base too ... but they did not ... very likely because its too hard (precisely why i did it)

Or maybe, just maybe some of us knew better? That’s the playing with fire I mentioned. 100% defenseless was purely gambling with your time and nothing more.

you want - put war weight on bases based on their attack ability only ... that should solved your “fear” of engeeniring bases in war ...

So, you’d be ok with the enemy having a maxed defense and offense base for every defenseless base you included in your roster?

[xxTIJxx]

Who's this "you"? I hope you're not under the impression you can argue with SC here. They don't get into back & forth arguments with us players.

They (SC) did listen to ppl complaining about engeeners in war
all i am saying is it dont take engineering away (its a fun chalenge) ... adjust their war weight to whatever you feel is necessary ... they already set minimum war weight by requiring certain defences before th upgrade ... just apply those weight to engeeneers even if they dont have those defences ... hell, progressively increase their defence weight based on their attack power if needed (even if they dont have those defences ... so it will be ultimately engeeneer fault for weighing so heavy without actually having those defences and upgrading them ... but at least its their choice)

[joshsgrandad]

if discrimanation are best left to outside world, then why are you nurfing engeeneers ... you cannot simply undo wrong by doing more wrong things

My engeenered base never had impact in our wars ... i have it because i simply enjoy building something different (already done max th11).

And if ppl say defenseless bases have such an impact in war ... they could have started defenseless base too ... but they did not ... very likely because its too hard (precisely why i did it)

hell ... i dont care about engineering base having impact on war ... thats not the reason i did it ... you want - put war weight on bases based on their attack ability only ... that should solved your “fear” of engeeniring bases in war ... but do not take it away as some ppl spent ages doing that challenge

Mate. if I was in charge, I would nerf 12s, 11s, and big 10s too. Since our top base is a non max, non IT th10 base, then every base that could kill our 10 would be set fire to. But unfortunately I am not in charge. I am not even an employee of SC.
Forget the max 11. The question is.. Do you use the d/less 10 in war?. If its a yes, then it does have an impact in war.
I should copy and paste the next bit... our clan doesn't mind facing engi in war, we have better success with them, than with an account that carries bigger defence. Our bases can defend better than we can attack, as our heroes are below par. What I would fear would be an off/less base.
I suspect clans that don't run with filler accounts and draw us wont be happy either, but it doesn't stop us doing it, and I doubt they will copy, as they have their own play style, one of the reasons why we don't use d/less for war. Biggest reason I ignored the obvious benefits of using them tho, was their inflexibility, so any change would render the account useless.

[xXXCHRISXXx]

They (SC) did listen to ppl complaining about engeeners in war

They (Supercell) had way more data and info than us (the players here) could ever had accumulated. Supercell made the decision it was doing more harm than good. So once again they (Supercell again) decided to “nerf” it. All the people here did was bring it to their attention. Supercell made the decision after that based on THEIR info and unfortunately you’re stuck with it along with all the rest of us. So if you enjoy the game, saddle up, you have a maxed offense account you’re going to build into a totally maxed out account! You could be starting from scratch...