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    Quote Originally Posted by TerMinus Prime View Post
    My idea was to get reward based on contribution
    do 1000 points - you get 1000 points worth rewards
    do 3000 points - you get 3000 points worth rewards
    This is just an idea. even if sc dont make changes to cg , i will continue to play the game lol
    Quote Originally Posted by ClashPlayerZ View Post
    This is exactly how the Games should work. Rewards based on performance.

    Look at the last EVENT that just finished 2 days ago. What was it?? Balloon/haste x 20 completions = Spell Book

    This Event was not just complete 1 or 2 attacks using 10 Loons to get the Book. It was 20. The 20 was the incentive to get the Book.
    You get nothing if you just do half.
    The Clan Games should be just like this. How much you get is predicated on how much you put it.
    This is the only way to get rid of freeloaders
    This for me is exactly how it shouldn't be.

    I'll give you a quick example.... We have a player who does very well in war. He has maxed his points on each set of games so far. The last games however he got only 125 because of real life events.

    Now do you think he should be penalised in terms of the rewards simply because real life took over during one set of games?? Should he miss out on the rewards despite being an excellent clan member? More to the point would I, as a co-leader, want him to miss out on rewards that will ultimately benefit the clan in he long run?

    Not a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClashPlayerZ View Post
    This is exactly how the Games should work. Rewards based on performance.

    Look at the last EVENT that just finished 2 days ago. What was it?? Balloon/haste x 20 completions = Spell Book

    This Event was not just complete 1 or 2 attacks using 10 Loons to get the Book. It was 20. The 20 was the incentive to get the Book.
    You get nothing if you just do half.
    The Clan Games should be just like this. How much you get is predicated on how much you put it.
    This is the only way to get rid of freeloaders
    Somehow, I have a sneaky suspicion that you would show up on the boards claiming it's unfair that you didn't get full rewards if during an upcoming Clan Games, your device was stolen after you completed just 2 events and only contributed 200 points. Meanwhile, the rest of your clan that had passed the limit would be enjoying the multitude of awards while you're left reconsidering your support of having limits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1 View Post
    My clan has never missed the top reward tier. I'd say that what my way works just fine.
    Just because your clan has never missed the top tier doesn't mean the whole thing works well in general.

    I do agree that not all members should get all the prizes. At least, top members should get some extra.

    There are a few things that can be done as others have already said, e.g.:

    - Setting a minimum score to be eligible for the rewards. This can be done for each tier. Say a member only got 50 medals, that member would be entitled for tier 1 rewards only.
    - Allowing leaders to set the minimum medals to get all the rewards. (This could lead to members going for higher medals instead of just completing 1 or 2 challenges.

    The problem is, from an empirical view, the number of quality players have dramatically decreased. I spent 2 years in a war oriented clan that reached level 14. We always had 50 good members, always played 50 vs 50 wars and suddenly we started losing members and the ones who tried to join were just spoiled kids asking for max troops.

    Some of us started a new clan because the leadership was doing nothing to fix things in our previous clan.
    Our new clan is level 3, we have been able to recruit some good players for war but many of them aren't that interested in clan games. I don't want to kick them bc their donations are good and they are serious about war.

    Setting a limit in clan games may make them score more medals or the very least the guys busting their butt won't feel they are working for someone else just to pass by and grab all the rewards.

    Something need to be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damiz View Post
    This for me is exactly how it shouldn't be.

    I'll give you a quick example.... We have a player who does very well in war. He has maxed his points on each set of games so far. The last games however he got only 125 because of real life events.

    Now do you think he should be penalised in terms of the rewards simply because real life took over during one set of games?? Should he miss out on the rewards despite being an excellent clan member? More to the point would I, as a co-leader, want him to miss out on rewards that will ultimately benefit the clan in he long run?

    Not a chance.
    He is not being penalized, he just didn't make the cut. He didn't earn it. If some rewards were taken away from him after he EARNED them, that would be a different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrek View Post
    He is not being penalized, he just didn't make the cut. He didn't earn it. If some rewards were taken away from him after he EARNED them, that would be a different story.
    "He just didn't make the cut" "He didn't earn it".

    The above two statements are exactly what is wrong with many players views of these games.

    They are Clan Games. So it would be the clan that didn't make the cut or the clan that didn't earn it.

    We work as a clan. It is not an individual event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adrek View Post
    Just because your clan has never missed the top tier doesn't mean the whole thing works well in general.

    I do agree that not all members should get all the prizes. At least, top members should get some extra.

    There are a few things that can be done as others have already said, e.g.:

    - Setting a minimum score to be eligible for the rewards. This can be done for each tier. Say a member only got 50 medals, that member would be entitled for tier 1 rewards only.
    - Allowing leaders to set the minimum medals to get all the rewards. (This could lead to members going for higher medals instead of just completing 1 or 2 challenges.

    The problem is, from an empirical view, the number of quality players have dramatically decreased. I spent 2 years in a war oriented clan that reached level 14. We always had 50 good members, always played 50 vs 50 wars and suddenly we started losing members and the ones who tried to join were just spoiled kids asking for max troops.

    Some of us started a new clan because the leadership was doing nothing to fix things in our previous clan.
    Our new clan is level 3, we have been able to recruit some good players for war but many of them aren't that interested in clan games. I don't want to kick them bc their donations are good and they are serious about war.

    Setting a limit in clan games may make them score more medals or the very least the guys busting their butt won't feel they are working for someone else just to pass by and grab all the rewards.

    Something need to be done.
    No, but it demonstrates good leadership does not require the requested tools. It demonstrates that a clan can be successful if the leaders are willing to do what needs to be done. It demonstrate that tools are not replacements for good leadership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrek View Post
    He is not being penalized, he just didn't make the cut. He didn't earn it. If some rewards were taken away from him after he EARNED them, that would be a different story.
    He's being penalized in the sense that he achieved max points in previous clan games and no doubt carried some other members of the clan such that they benefited from getting rewards without contributing. He should be able to receive that same benefit.

    I'm telling you, all the people complaining about free loaders will find themselves on the short end of the stick for any number of reasons if SC implements something like this. All it takes is "life" happening and you'll miss out on rewards while your clan enjoys them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrek View Post
    He is not being penalized, he just didn't make the cut. He didn't earn it. If some rewards were taken away from him after he EARNED them, that would be a different story.
    Remember, you are not the one giving away the rewards. SC is the one giving the rewards and SC is the one that decides what qualifies a player to receive the reward. You do not get to take away rewards that you are not giving away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorbash098 View Post
    Remember, you are not the one giving away the rewards. SC is the one giving the rewards and SC is the one that decides what qualifies a player to receive the reward. You do not get to take away rewards that you are not giving away.
    That was my point, no one is taking away rewards in the example given by the guy quoted on my comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xc3ss1v30n3 View Post
    Somehow, I have a sneaky suspicion that you would show up on the boards claiming it's unfair that you didn't get full rewards if during an upcoming Clan Games, your device was stolen after you completed just 2 events and only contributed 200 points. Meanwhile, the rest of your clan that had passed the limit would be enjoying the multitude of awards while you're left reconsidering your support of having limits.
    You have comprehension issues?? Read much?
    Having a hard time comprehending my posts are a proponent to ridding leeches/freeloaders?

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