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    Quote Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1 View Post
    If you have people who intentionally do not contribute, and it is important in your clan to do so, boot them. This is not a game problem you're having. It's a clan problem.
    I beg to differ, a member doing the bare minimum vs a member maxing out with both getting the same reward seems like a game problem to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKratos View Post
    I bet we can come up with various scenarios to prove or disprove each others point. In this scenario, I would merely drop the minimum required points to get to the max rewards. My point is, that we're seeing an increase in people doing one event to simply qualify for the rewards, maybe I should've made it more clear in my original post...
    Well, what are your objectives as a clan ? Are you a serious war orientated clan, casual war clan, FWA, CG clan, BB clan, or a bit of a mix ?

    If you lay out your objectives in a reasonable manner to your clan and state your 'clan rules' clearly then generally, people who don't want to play in such a clan will leave to find another. Those that do stay apparently agree to what's been stated. If they then don't meet those statements you can take steps.

    EG, if you are a serious war clan, anybody that doesn't use both attacks and follow the attacking plan will likely be kicked. So, first step is to decide what sort of clan you are/want to be. Then set the rules accordingly and use your clan management tools and skills to see that they are followed. If you are more war than CG, maybe it's better to keep those war players. If more into farming then CG is probably more important to you. If you want to hit a balance then I'd suggest that only one or two doing a 50 point challenge each is acceptable for what they contribute elsewhere. But only you can decide that for your clan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKratos View Post
    I beg to differ, a member doing the bare minimum vs a member maxing out with both getting the same reward seems like a game problem to me
    Like I said, manage your clan. If you feel that certain members aren't making the cut, then cut them from the team!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1 View Post
    Oh great, I can see it now... Your threshold is set at 1,500, but you are 200 shy, so you change the threshold to 200. Now, all of your guys who busted their butts to get to 1,500 will be bitter. I'm sorry, but I stick to what I said previously. It simply comes down to two words--clan management.
    *Facepalm* Ok yeah you do that... Like I said before, we can come up with various scenarios to counter each others argument, I'm really not interested in doing that

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaz1966 View Post
    Well, what are your objectives as a clan ? Are you a serious war orientated clan, casual war clan, FWA, CG clan, BB clan, or a bit of a mix ?

    If you lay out your objectives in a reasonable manner to your clan and state your 'clan rules' clearly then generally, people who don't want to play in such a clan will leave to find another. Those that do stay apparently agree to what's been stated. If they then don't meet those statements you can take steps.

    EG, if you are a serious war clan, anybody that doesn't use both attacks and follow the attacking plan will likely be kicked. So, first step is to decide what sort of clan you are/want to be. Then set the rules accordingly and use your clan management tools and skills to see that they are followed. If you are more war than CG, maybe it's better to keep those war players. If more into farming then CG is probably more important to you. If you want to hit a balance then I'd suggest that only one or two doing a 50 point challenge each is acceptable for what they contribute elsewhere. But only you can decide that for your clan.
    I agree ...upto some extend it can be solved by clan management but not fully...as if you see my most of threads are related to clan games....so from those thread i take some advice and implement them..i just put all my clan rules in clan description ...and asked every new recruit to read it....if the still want to stay ...they can stay ...otherwise leave...and those advice gave me 20-30% result ....but to apply rules to your clan there are some specification like..
    1)you need higher league players..like of titan..champs etc...i personally push myself to titan
    2)need some core player..so that your clan can run ..if there is need to kick out all other players
    3)rules are only acceptable by the players if you have a good lvl clan

    if donot have above mentioned thing then its really hard to run clan

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKratos View Post
    I beg to differ, a member doing the bare minimum vs a member maxing out with both getting the same reward seems like a game problem to me
    I am with TheConfuzed1 on this and that if you feel people are reaping the rewards from not putting in the effort then it is up to you, as the clan management team, to either motivate them to work harder for the clan or remove them from the clan. You say they are active in donating and war so it maybe a case where as a clan you have to decide if you're working at being a war clan or a clan games clan.

    If you are going to try and force people to play the way you want them to rather than encourage them to help out their clanmates then you are in for real trouble in the long run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKratos View Post
    *Facepalm* Ok yeah you do that... Like I said before, we can come up with various scenarios to counter each others argument, I'm really not interested in doing that
    My clan has never missed the top reward tier. I'd say that what my way works just fine.

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    Im a leecher, many other of my clanmates are leechers and my clan leader is happy because the whole clan got >50000 point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaz1966 View Post
    Well, what are your objectives as a clan ? Are you a serious war orientated clan, casual war clan, FWA, CG clan, BB clan, or a bit of a mix ?

    If you lay out your objectives in a reasonable manner to your clan and state your 'clan rules' clearly then generally, people who don't want to play in such a clan will leave to find another. Those that do stay apparently agree to what's been stated. If they then don't meet those statements you can take steps.

    EG, if you are a serious war clan, anybody that doesn't use both attacks and follow the attacking plan will likely be kicked. So, first step is to decide what sort of clan you are/want to be. Then set the rules accordingly and use your clan management tools and skills to see that they are followed. If you are more war than CG, maybe it's better to keep those war players. If more into farming then CG is probably more important to you. If you want to hit a balance then I'd suggest that only one or two doing a 50 point challenge each is acceptable for what they contribute elsewhere. But only you can decide that for your clan.
    Our objectives? Win most of our wars and get most of the clan game rewards xD. We're trying to hit the balance between a good war clan and a good farming clan, nothing too serious. Members not attacking at all are warned or kicked depending on their status, the same goes for request / donate ratio and how active a member is. All members are aware of the objectives, and this is communicated in in-game chat, mail, clan description and whatsapp group.

    It's only recently that members started doing one event to claim their reward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKratos View Post
    Our objectives? Win most of our wars and get most of the clan game rewards xD. We're trying to hit the balance between a good war clan and a good farming clan, nothing too serious. Members not attacking at all are warned or kicked depending on their status, the same goes for request / donate ratio and how active a member is. All members are aware of the objectives, and this is communicated in in-game chat, mail, clan description and whatsapp group.

    It's only recently that members started doing one event to claim their reward.
    Hmm, sounds like you are doing everything right really. Maybe it's time to demote or kick one of those one event players to show the others that you mean what you say. Or at the very least, make it clear that in the future this won't be tolerated.

    I know it's not easy to hit a balance, particularly as there is a lot of stuff suddenly to do in clash now and people can feel pressured into performing in CG when really, they want to play to relax. Maybe if you have a bit of a chat over whatsapp with these players you can iron things out or come to an agreement about performance in the next round of CG.

    Last games I pointed out to a couple of members that although I didn't mind them scoring 100 points, if everyone did that, we wouldn't get the rewards we all want. This time around they both pulled over 2k. If they had got 100 each again, I would have spoken to them and if it happened next games as well then bye bye!!!

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    Big deal, eh?

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