I’m done with BH

[SilverX]

Guess that isn't the case now with trophy resets every season so there goes that argument. rrobert05 is right in that even when you rush to BH 8 you still aren't going to be winning. Players are better off generally maxing their defenses and at least several troop types at each bh level before advancing. This will put them in a better place in the long haul and stop worrying so much about trophies because either way they are just going to get knocked back down by opponents who outmatch them until the time comes when they have a max bh8.

That's where skill come into play if you are a BH8 and match with another BH8. I am rising just fine even though I met a lot of bases with level 8 defenses or several level 16 troops, obviously those are player who gems (most high F2P that don't gems should be around my defense and troops level). I also met someone who is completely maxed, including walls. It could be done, it's not unfair. It rewards skill and progress.

Better places down there versus up here? Nope, there is no math needed.

Worry about trophy? I don't care it will knock me down to 4000 evvey month. All I care is loot bonus to progress. When I get back up, I will have more loot bonus than those who stays in low trophy range, and that is already best progress as an F2P with the current system. I don't need to depends on SC to change the system to progress, nope.

Outmatched by maxed BH8? Nope if you have the skill and you are a BH8.

[Alishr99]

That's where skill come into play if you are a BH8 and match with another BH8. I am rising just fine even though I met a lot of bases with level 8 defenses or several level 16 troops, obviously those are player who gems (most high F2P that don't gems should be around my defense and troops level). I also met someone who is completely maxed, including walls. It could be done, it's not unfair. It rewards skill and progress.

Better places down there versus up here? Nope, there is no math needed.

Worry about trophy? I don't care it will knock me down to 4000 evvey month. All I care is loot bonus to progress. When I get back up, I will have more loot bonus than those who stays in low trophy range, and that is already best progress as an F2P with the current system. I don't need to depends on SC to change the system to progress, nope.

Outmatched by BH8? Nope if you have the skill and you are a BH8.

this...
BB is purely skill based for pushing
its Ferrari.... 3.30m one on one battle

[dazin]

this...
BB is purely skill based for pushing
its Ferrari.... 3.30m one on one battle

Of course those who believe they possess immense skill will also hold the belief that skill is what determines the outcome; anything different would cause cognitive dissonance.
I’m sorry, but dropping a few troop units and one hero to take on a relatively small base with minimal various in layouts just doesn’t require much skill at all and I don’t know how anyone could honestly state otherwise.

[Ajax]

Of course those who believe they possess immense skill will also hold the belief that skill is what determines the outcome; anything different would cause cognitive dissonance.
I’m sorry, but dropping a few troop units and one hero to take on a relatively small base with minimal various in layouts just doesn’t require much skill at all and I don’t know how anyone could honestly state otherwise.

Anybody who plays it regularly knows otherwise.

[dazin]

Anybody who plays it regularly knows otherwise.

I guess I’m not just anybody then because I play bb regularly unless somehow you are inferring that only those who gem and have higher trophies levels are “regular” players.

If bb takes immense skill perhaps you would be so kind to share some of your complex attack strategies of how you use multiple troop units in surgical attacks to consistently beat equal or stronger opponents.
That would be much more productive and beneficial to those looking to improve rather than throwing around 1 sentence zingers.

[Tiler]

I guess I’m not just anybody then because I play bb regularly unless somehow you are inferring that only those who gem and have higher trophies levels are “regular” players.

If bb takes immense skill perhaps you would be so kind to share some of your complex attack strategies of how you use multiple troop units in surgical attacks to consistently beat equal or stronger opponents.
That would be much more productive and beneficial to those looking to improve rather than throwing around 1 sentence zingers.

Considering there's a massive difference in the outcome of my attacks if I drop them all in one spot compared to how I actually do it, there's got to be something there.

I'm not really sure how to tackle your argument. It's simpler than the MV by design, and certainly requires less skill and understanding. But to say it requires little skill doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You still need to know when and where to drop your troops and when to time your hero's ability. You need to understand the power and limitations of your army, and you need to understand your opponents' defenses. It's not hard to have two people with the same units be at levels due to skill

[Ajax]

I guess I’m not just anybody then because I play bb regularly unless somehow you are inferring that only those who gem and have higher trophies levels are “regular” players.

If bb takes immense skill perhaps you would be so kind to share some of your complex attack strategies of how you use multiple troop units in surgical attacks to consistently beat equal or stronger opponents.
That would be much more productive and beneficial to those looking to improve rather than throwing around 1 sentence zingers.

It is not remotely a binary choice.

It is not a case of "no skill" or "immense skill".

Anybody who plays much knows there is significant skill involved (apart from you, it would seem). But I can't recall anybody saying it requires "immense" skill, or anything close to it.

[dazin]

Considering there's a massive difference in the outcome of my attacks if I drop them all in one spot compared to how I actually do it, there's got to be something there.

I'm not really sure how to tackle your argument. It's simpler than the MV by design, and certainly requires less skill and understanding. But to say it requires little skill doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You still need to know when and where to drop your troops and when to time your hero's ability. You need to understand the power and limitations of your army, and you need to understand your opponents' defenses. It's not hard to have two people with the same units be at levels due to skill

Perhaps it lies somewhere in the middle and maybe it would be more accurate to say bb requires little skill compared to MV and little skill for MV players who are experienced in clash and how troops and the general AI behaves.

I suppose theoretically if one has never played MV much and never climbed high in trophies or partipated in numerous wars with a legitimate war clan they might find attacks in bb to be challenging and require skill, from their perspective at least.

[Tomville]

Guess that isn't the case now with trophy resets every season so there goes that argument.

This is an odd thing to say, trophies always reset every season from the very start - it just affected less people because there were less people experiencing it on their games. So that we all just got reset now is irrelevant when you are replying to someone who was speaking prior to reset about their experience of their searches at that time, and not of the small 1-3 day upheaval we have every season. You are taking the less frequent and representing it as the constant, while uncharitably reading the person you reply to so as to make a caricature. Of course he doesn’t mean that at hour 1 of a new season he sees no smaller bases - that would be ridiculous - he means rather that the majority of the season he hardly ever sees them and never sees them at all well before season end.

Perhaps it lies somewhere in the middle and maybe it would be more accurate to say bb requires little skill compared to MV and little skill for MV players who are experienced in clash and how troops and the general AI behaves.

I suppose theoretically if one has never played MV much and never climbed high in trophies or partipated in numerous wars with a legitimate war clan they might find attacks in bb to be challenging and require skill, from their perspective at least.

Well you might think that, it reads to me more like a polite sounding way of insulting people that disagree with you. That’s not ok.

Perhaps the person who said B.B. is simple but not simplistic put it best: there’s no point comparing B.B. to trophy pushing main to war, which are all different game modes. They all require a decent consistent level of skill to do well, and they’re all playable on moderate to low skills as well for lower results.

There’s no mileage in pointing to one over the others as something that must somehow involve an illusory estimation of high skill going on in the heads of the only moderately skilled in a way that warps their judgement.

[Nzdiver]

Guess that isn't the case now with trophy resets every season so there goes that argument. rrobert05 is right in that even when you rush to BH 8 you still aren't going to be winning. Players are better off generally maxing their defenses and at least several troop types at each bh level before advancing. This will put them in a better place in the long haul and stop worrying so much about trophies because either way they are just going to get knocked back down by opponents who outmatch them until the time comes when they have a max bh8.

This strategy is why you will never get to 5k.
I have a rushed bh8 with level 4 and 5 defences and it's up around 3.6k. That's because the rushing strategy works whereas players who play your way never get very high and complain that they are getting beaten while maintaining they are the most skillful.
Skill requires both planning and execution but maybe you just aren't as good as you think.