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    Quote Originally Posted by Prutser View Post
    Hi JF Soul.

    First off: I am 100% sure I NEVER said you have mental problems. I would never say such a thing, that would be ridiculous.
    Next to that, I have read those 3 posts and I cannot understand your point. Probably I am too dumb to understand.

    Do you mean that you are afraid that the clan games become to boring if they come to frequent? If so, why not choose to not do them. Why do you need SC to help you by not offering them? Again, I probably do not understand you correctly.

    Can you please reply with the reason you try to express?
    Prutser, I don't think you are dumb. I think you are using a cheap tactic to attack my point of view.

    You've given several reasons for why Clan Games should be all the time, and they are valid. I think most here in the forum and in the community would agree with you, and it's good to raise activity levels of individual players and clans. But in the long-term the attraction of clan games might wear off. Yes, as stated in the threads and in my other replies, that might mean clans and individuals simply choose not to participate. But if SC's goal is to keep activity levels up for longer periods of time, then perhaps reducing the frequency will actually help in the long run.

    All of this is assuming Clan Games stays as is in its current format. . It could evolve which would lend itself to more activity in the near-term (i.e. quests that require more clan participation and management).

    You also can't completely dismiss the impact of clouds, IMO...SC listens to trophy pushers too.
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    Just because you dont see problems that doesn't mean the problem isn't there.
    Hope i dont have to say all those things that are already posted in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFSoul View Post
    Prutser, I don't think you are dumb. I think you are using a cheap tactic to attack my point of view.

    You've given several reasons for why Clan Games should be all the time, and they are valid. I think most here in the forum and in the community would agree with you, and it's good to raise activity levels of individual players and clans. But in the long-term the attraction of clan games might wear off. Yes, as stated in the threads and in my other replies, that might mean clans and individuals simply choose not to participate. But if SC's goal is to keep activity levels up for longer periods of time, then perhaps reducing the frequency will actually help in the long run.

    All of this is assuming Clan Games stays as is in its current format. . It could evolve which would lend itself to more activity in the near-term (i.e. quests that require more clan participation and management).

    You also can't completely dismiss the impact of clouds, IMO...SC listens to trophy pushers too.
    Well I do agree that I tend to dismiss the impact of clouds, I am the first to admit that I do not listen to pushers which might be selfish on my part, however I feel that the pushers are such a small minority of the player base that it would be better for the game in terms of longetivity if SC would give the masses something more to do in the game the please the pushers.

    (Sidenote: I would like to know how much the clouds are REALLY impacted by the clan games. Before the clan games we had daily complaints (mind you: valid!) about clouding too. Sc is doing nothing about it, so that is why I choose to dismiss that reason).

    I do not understand why you think I am using a cheap tactic, I can assure you I don't.
    And I am sorry, but I still do not understand what is wrong with choosing not to do the clan games if you find the frequency to high. I do not understand why you think the long-term attraction would wear off. And if it did, what is wrong with that? It just becomes another way to play clash.

    Warring has worn off for my clan. It sucks but that's just the way it is.


    Another good point I can agree with (and is probably the most valid one -in my eyes-) is income loss for SC. Because I guess a lot of people do no longer gem heroes but rather wait on the clan games to get a hero book.

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    OK. My coins tossed into the ring...

    I have loyalty issues. I am obsessive about never being one to let down the "team"... a throwback to being the tallest kid on the team every year and having a dad preaching responsibility non stop.

    Clan games, I clash alone, so I join other clans to do the games. I knew I was busy this week so I would not be doing much for the clan games.

    But, I am an obsessive team player. If the games are there, I feel obligated to help. So last night I was up way too late doing challenges. And the night before. and it will happen again tonight.

    So I get both sides. They are optional... and I JOINED a clan to get the rewards... but wheeeeewwwww I need to calm down. Next games I am only maxing ONE account. This game... will end up with three maxed and two more at 1000. Too much. But, there is no way I am ever letting others down.

    While it is OPTIONAL... man you sure could feel like a jerk not doing your share and more each time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prutser View Post
    Well I do agree that I tend to dismiss the impact of clouds, I am the first to admit that I do not listen to pushers which might be selfish on my part, however I feel that the pushers are such a small minority of the player base that it would be better for the game in terms of longetivity if SC would give the masses something more to do in the game the please the pushers.

    (Sidenote: I would like to know how much the clouds are REALLY impacted by the clan games. Before the clan games we had daily complaints (mind you: valid!) about clouding too. Sc is doing nothing about it, so that is why I choose to dismiss that reason).

    I do not understand why you think I am using a cheap tactic, I can assure you I don't.
    And I am sorry, but I still do not understand what is wrong with choosing not to do the clan games if you find the frequency to high. I do not understand why you think the long-term attraction would wear off. And if it did, what is wrong with that? It just becomes another way to play clash.

    Warring has worn off for my clan. It sucks but that's just the way it is.


    Another good point I can agree with (and is probably the most valid one -in my eyes-) is income loss for SC. Because I guess a lot of people do no longer gem heroes but rather wait on the clan games to get a hero book.
    Usually, when someone says "I'm probably too dumb to understand what you are trying to say" it's a back-handed way of insulting the person you are addressing, because you don't mean it. You've used "" a lot, saying you are too dumb to understand my so called "valid" reasons. But if that was not your intent, got it.

    With respect to the bolded above there is nothing wrong with choosing not to do the games. I never said it was wrong, as that implies there is a right answer in this discussion, or that it only pertains to an individual or a clan. My discussion is focused on the entire community and the entire game. And you're actually adding a point that gives my opinion some validity--your clan got tired of Clan Wars. Perhaps because the novelty wore off? Or engineering, or the natural progression / life cycle of any clan or player in the game? Or maybe the frequency? Regardless, it happened. That could happen with Clan Games too...or not. Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shibstorm View Post
    Just because you dont see problems that doesn't mean the problem isn't there.
    Hope i dont have to say all those things that are already posted in this thread.
    u dont any other reasons to post here since i already answerd all the topics already and if u think i missed some points do mention it and ill answer you back but i dont htink u have any so no point of arguing about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanay999 View Post
    u dont any other reasons to post here since i already answerd all the topics already and if u think i missed some points do mention it and ill answer you back but i dont htink u have any so no point of arguing about it
    Well i posted my points in another thread but because some ignorant people, that thread taken down.
    However all of my points are in this thread too if you look closely just above my comment you will surely find it..
    No point talking someone who (understand very well) dont even try to consider other peoples opinions over them.
    " Dont participate" that's all i saw over 2 days of argument"
    New trending just like "adapt or quit"
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    Keep the clan games coming. I have a lot to upgrade in my base👍👍👍😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFSoul View Post
    Usually, when someone says "I'm probably too dumb to understand what you are trying to say" it's a back-handed way of insulting the person you are addressing, because you don't mean it. You've used "" a lot, saying you are too dumb to understand my so called "valid" reasons. But if that was not your intent, got it.

    With respect to the bolded above there is nothing wrong with choosing not to do the games. I never said it was wrong, as that implies there is a right answer in this discussion, or that it only pertains to an individual or a clan. My discussion is focused on the entire community and the entire game. And you're actually adding a point that gives my opinion some validity--your clan got tired of Clan Wars. Perhaps because the novelty wore off? Or engineering, or the natural progression / life cycle of any clan or player in the game? Or maybe the frequency? Regardless, it happened. That could happen with Clan Games too...or not. Just my opinion.
    I think the whole back-handed way of insulting mix up is due to my not being a native english speaker, so I am not trained in that. So I did probably insult you without knowing it lol. To be clear I just meant to say what I literally said. I might be to dumb.

    I get all of your points. Yes, clan games might wear off too. But doesn't every game have this problem? SC needs to come up with different things to do in clash to keep from making the game stale. One thing they (SC) do (and probably still will be doing) is giving us new TH levels, and new troops. While great, it is more of the same.

    We have seen that clan wars have become a big mess and that SC cannot fix it. We know that the pushing game is having a big clouding problem and is dominated by people with multiple accounts, clans, accounts staying online all the time, what not (dare I say cheaters to stay on top of the leaderboards or is that too toxic, which I do not get because we KNOW that is happening, anyway now I am derailing myself LOL).

    Now you might think it is not a problem to do the problematic wars, but for our clan, enough became enough. We really needed something new. Clan games is just what the doctor ordered for us.

    I see the clan games as a whole new way of playing the game without giving us new troop levels or THs. They (SC) can do so much more with this to make clan games even better. I am pretty optimistic, and if SC can keep the clan games fresh with new things we haven't thought about yet PLUS they come up with something for the clouds wouldn't that be a positive thing?

    So yeah, I am kind of feeling the need to "fight" for this clan games as an option for our clan and players like me to keep the game alive and kicking. I am sorry if I offended people with my strong views. I will choose to opt out from the discussion from now on . Untill I see something that annoys me ofcourse. This is, after all, a forum.

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