Noc’s Upgrade Guide for BH8

[Ishmaam]

Thanks m8. Your guide is the best and i hope it will help me!

[Noctaire]

I’ll try to respond to each question comment; if I miss something, let me know.

1. Super PEKKA before other air...just Battlefest. Battlefest‘s high loot availability makes it an ideal time to knock out a bunch of levels on the new troop or get a higher costing upgrade done. I am also using Battlefest loot to bring everything on the base up to L7.
2. You can really do either Beta Minions or Drop Ships; the order doesn’t matter. I think that DS, with the buff they received in this update, are more than adequate as tanks and that the damage boost of a L16 Beta Minion is a bigger bang for the buck. I’m a huge fan of the Long Shot ability and use it extensively in my attacks.
3. Everyone has a personal preference on when to upgrade storages. Like the new troop, Battlefest presents a unique loot opportunity. Taking advantage of it is a solid strategy. I am using the loot to get everything to L7 faster.
4. The improvements to the Raged Barbarian is minor at best. He has a few more HP and DPS, but compared to the HP boost to the Boxer Giants and getting an additional unit of BG, CC, and Bombers in your camp...? The big bang for ground in this release is not RBs. It’s also worth remembering that in the early stages of BH8, you’ll be fighting a mix of L7 and lower defenses. All of which respond very well to L7 offense.

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[SamirMishra]

I'm not going to Gem or BoB my BH to level 8, I'm actually lower at trophies and trying to max out by Rushing all the way, My BM is level 5 means Regeneration ability helps me to survive longer, and it's pretty powerful, if your priorities is To upgrade air troops, no problem, Just Bring BM to level 5 but most important thing will be that to make it survive longer.

I'm not much concerned about Defenses but Higher trophy levels Has to Get a grip on defenses, as your Guide said. Thanks for the Guide, I have planned to Finish all traps to max level first. During that I'll put my Barch to level 16 which is my primary attacking start. And 70% of times get me 100% even if the opponent is maxed BH 7. I'd go for The army camp first and then Star lab first because of the battle fest and that's one of the Reasons I've Let my BH to upgrade without Gemming. If gold Overflows I'll build up the Mega tesla and few defenses. At the very end I will go for Other Troops upgrades and Rest defenses simultaneously. And at last only walls and BM left.

Btw, if you notice BM's stats I believe there's still 5 more levels left to Introduce?

[Noctaire]

BM is supposed to go to L30 but only went to L25 in this update. I’m wondering if maybe SC is going to treat his last 5vlevrls like they did L12 walls on the HV - release some now, then the rest later. The BM is an elixir vampire though; better to use it early on to upgrade important troops and structures.

[SamirMishra]

Completety agree. The Defense on BH8 is just very stronger i believe and My best bet is that Devs are going to monitor the Defensive Statistics over Millions of players and Win-loss rate as well. So if they encounter the Defenses being OP then they'll adjust stats of BM to more or if they are weak, then they might add few amount of Damage to next 5 levels of BM. Noc, Don't you think Super pekka is just Weak? LOL. I think they Might be bringing new 5 levels of BM and a Buff to Super pekka in the Summer Update or in June balancing. Who knows?

[GrapeApeAffe]

To some extent yes, but Minions behind Drop Ships means the deployment has to be fast and in mass volume before Drop Ships are dying. And with mass deployment, the additional Long Shots is not maximized.

But if you are using Minion to snipe some Buildings with more HP, then additional Long Shots are really good.

Considering how Minion Drops work though, I will upgrade Minions to 15, then Drop Ship to 16 then back to Minion to 16. But that could change still. And it don't matter much, only few days difference, so I guess yours way is good too.

Just to give some more insight into why I chose Minions first. My mini only has DS12, but I still chose to max minions to 16 first.
Its doing as well or slightly better than my Main that still has Minion14/DS14 (and I bought the tesla pack and gemmed my roaster on my main so...)

[m5anto]

The improvements to raged barbarian in terms of dps and health may be minor, but their strength is in their numbers and in numbers that minor adds up to major one. I did barbs to 15 and i see it. Next i am taking up carts to 16, then bombers, giants,barbs to 16. If any of you are doing carts upgrade first, do barbs next, they are great

[dodgson]

As a f2p person I went with storages over the lab for resource management. They don't take as long (3 days!). On my two accounts I only had 2 BoB on one of them and just used it on the camp. Once the games are over I'll do the lab, mega tesla, and finish getting things to 7. In the meantime I'm getting my drop ships to 13 since I hadn't had time to finish them prior to TH8. I'd really been hoping they'd wait another 2 weeks. I'll probably do minions, maybe one level in baby drags, and witches before finishing up dropships although we'll see. I'm hovering 4300 to 4500 on both accounts right now and just switched from baby drags and minions (30) to witches and minions (30) yesterday.

[Noctaire]

I dunno about the Super PEKKA yet. I have her up to L6 now and I’ve tried using her a few times but she just does not last long enough, which is REALLY surprising for a troop that already has an HP of 3630 at L6. Additionally, the Supercharge has yet to cause damage substantial enough to really stop a major defense.

So...I decided I had to see what she was REALLY capable of. I coughed up one of those magic blue potions and she jumped to level 16. In the name of all that is holy...I am having an absolute ball with MSP (Mass Super PEKKA). I cannot imagine this troop will be allowed to stay this strong for very long. I scored a 94% on an all L7/L8 BH8 with L7 walls. I am fast starting to think she will become the new spam troop at BH8 and probably around L12. Definitely the funnest spammed troop yet, though....

What I‘ve learned....

1) She likes to clump together
2) She’s highly susceptible to splash damage
3) You want to deploy her slowly when doing a mass attack ( like maybe 3/1/1/1)
4) Those big, open base designs are done for

[SamirMishra]

So overall we consider it being a Balanced troop. While i laugh when she gets pushed off with a push trap. Lol.