Builder Games - March 8th - March 12th

[arpithmania]

The advice you have for me to drop out of legends to make the Th games easier is the same advice you can use on Bh to make the Bh games easier. Drop to 1000 cups and it is very easy.

except you can make loads of loot staying in 1000 cups in homevillage but in bb if you are dropping too much cups for clan games, then you are hurting yourself. there are mini accounts for that.

[Affront]

This^^^ also.
What actually annoys me is that sometimes opponent takes around 2 min to 2:30+ mins to finish their raid which Wastes my couple of clock tower boost minutes.

I haven't even tried to take a 1 hour challenge, that would require me to attack 6 times (Destroy AirBombs or GuardPosts or MegaTeslas or BuilderHalls) as the outcome is far too uncertain. No MegaTesla or BuilderHall? Tough .. you just wasted 9 minutes (because the BM20 will take that long to regenerate without boost and attacking ON boost is just way more stressful than I need, when the last 2 bombers are tracking the walls until certain death will strike, in 30 seconds). I quickly figured out that I could only hope to get 7 attacks in, in 1 hour and judging from the challenges that are possible to select in the games now, I'm not the only one who has skipped the 1h challenges.

The "Destroy 6 X in an hour for 300 points"-challenges are examples of why Builder Base challenges are much harder than Main Base challenges. On main base, you can average 100 points per attack, whereas on Builder Base the average is much closer to 50 points per attack. (24 stars for 500 points? .. Well, I need 10-12 attacks to complete that one, and even if you could do it in 8 attacks, the point gain per attack wouldn't be more than 62,5)

That is, of course, if you have a developed BH7 or new BH8 base. The situation seems to be completely different if you have ignored Builder Base the last few months and happen to be at BH3-5 .. THEN the attacks can be done insanely quickly (though with the same average points)

Anyhow, people using 3 minutes per attack are still an annoyance, but .. we all have 3 minutes so those are the rules.

/Affront

[porky1122]

Would love to hear from whichever SC's dev team member it was who suggested BB games.

Why?!

[NatsuD]

At first I hated the builder base, but it grew on me and I've started to enjoy it, but that said I still intensely dislike this clan games because the challenges are way too tedious for very little points mixed with all the problems the builder base has.

PS: I think an excellent solution to the clock tower being wasted issue is that your clock tower boost pauses once your next army has trained and your enemy is still attacking, then it resumes when they're finished attacking. But Supercell probably won't implement that, cause nerfing things is their solution to everything.

[StormHeart]

I dropped a 1000 cups on my main. It's going to BH8, still a day and a half out. I sat all my defences on one side of the base, the traps out of the way and my non-defensive buildings on the other side. A few didn't three star me even then. I even won a few.

I can't hold any more loot, everything is full because I don't have a builder free. I don't care a lot about BH but what I noticed is that if I want the cups back it won't be hard. I was three starring nearly everything I saw after dropping so much. I'll have a new camp as soon as I hit BH8 so it will not be an issue for me to get my cups back. I won't get them back all at once. I'll go back to my three attacks per day.

except you can make loads of loot staying in 1000 cups in homevillage but in bb if you are dropping too much cups for clan games, then you are hurting yourself. there are mini accounts for that.

[Reefus]

lol you thought mate was a term of endearment and i know 'buddy' is purely condescending

it's a complete fail for our clan, and if you'd followed my posts in this this thread i have referred to the effects on our clan from the beginning, and yes on a public forum i'm quite allowed to vent our dissatisfaction or are you proposing the closure of free speech

mate

It's actually a privately owned forum currently open to the public. The concept of free speech doesn't apply here.

Sorry just a pet peeve when people start talking about their freedom of speech absent any participation by a governmental entity.

As for the builder games, the concept was valid but the execution was sloppy in my opinion. There's nothing wrong with a builder base themed clan games, but they could have done more to keep it from being a slog.

[dazin]

I haven't even tried to take a 1 hour challenge, that would require me to attack 6 times (Destroy AirBombs or GuardPosts or MegaTeslas or BuilderHalls) as the outcome is far too uncertain. No MegaTesla or BuilderHall? Tough .. you just wasted 9 minutes (because the BM20 will take that long to regenerate without boost and attacking ON boost is just way more stressful than I need, when the last 2 bombers are tracking the walls until certain death will strike, in 30 seconds). I quickly figured out that I could only hope to get 7 attacks in, in 1 hour and judging from the challenges that are possible to select in the games now, I'm not the only one who has skipped the 1h challenges.

The "Destroy 6 X in an hour for 300 points"-challenges are examples of why Builder Base challenges are much harder than Main Base challenges. On main base, you can average 100 points per attack, whereas on Builder Base the average is much closer to 50 points per attack. (24 stars for 500 points? .. Well, I need 10-12 attacks to complete that one, and even if you could do it in 8 attacks, the point gain per attack wouldn't be more than 62,5)

That is, of course, if you have a developed BH7 or new BH8 base. The situation seems to be completely different if you have ignored Builder Base the last few months and happen to be at BH3-5 .. THEN the attacks can be done insanely quickly (though with the same average points)

Anyhow, people using 3 minutes per attack are still an annoyance, but .. we all have 3 minutes so those are the rules.

/Affront

This is also countered by dropping trophies and creating a free for all base as it's easy to 3 star and complete the challenge within an hour and do so with or without your bm. The majority of your matches result in a 3 star draw so basically you are in the drivers seat when and if you want to drop trophies or gain them.

[Dillinger]

no-one in my clan likes the BB, and those that do play it, only play for fear of impact on main base in war.

Yes, this is it.... its the most frustrating game, but, i keep pushing forward out of fear, lol.
and to be honest, the cross overs so far have been fails (i havent built mortar yet, but, i'm not impressed. ..unfortunately, i thought mortar would be great, but, videos dont inpress me ).
If there is ever a cross over of battle machine, i'll be ready (and if this was to happen, it will be the greatest money grab - maxers needing to gem the battlemachine). This is the one thing i'm concerned with

[Affront]

This is also countered by dropping trophies and creating a free for all base as it's easy to 3 star and complete the challenge within an hour and do so with or without your bm. The majority of your matches result in a 3 star draw so basically you are in the drivers seat when and if you want to drop trophies or gain them.

The Roller Coaster Strategy for Builder Base Challenges.. yeah I read about that earlier on the tread or in one of the other Clan Games related threads .. I'm SO embarrassed, that I didn't figure that out by myself because that's just too obvious, isn't it? :-)

/Affront

[MouthofSauron]

It's actually a privately owned forum currently open to the public. The concept of free speech doesn't apply here.

Sorry just a pet peeve when people start talking about their freedom of speech absent any participation by a governmental entity.

As for the builder games, the concept was valid but the execution was sloppy in my opinion. There's nothing wrong with a builder base themed clan games, but they could have done more to keep it from being a slog.

Pretty sure the slog was done on purpose to generate more gem usage/sales.

And no, I'm not anti SC making money. They are a business after all, and without money this game dies. But such a blatant money grab, well that is a bit of a slap in the face.