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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainJackjr View Post
    When leader know his some​ clanmates are not able to complete too many challenges set minimum to 50. Even though your leader set minimum 1000 you have freedom to join another clan.
    I don't ever plan to set a minimum in my clan. Just trying to point out that what some see as a reasonable target is not reasonable for others. As for being free to leave, that is true and may very well be a consequence for leaders should they become too heavy handed with the targets. It may get rid of what the leader considers to be slackers. However, that leader may find that they have become a clan of one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piper139 View Post
    I don't ever plan to set a minimum in my clan. Just trying to point out that what some see as a reasonable target is not reasonable for others. As for being free to leave, that is true and may very well be a consequence for leaders should they become too heavy handed with the targets. It may get rid of what the leader considers to be slackers. However, that leader may find that they have become a clan of one.
    This feature is not for leader who have trust in his clanmates. They will set it minimum to 50 and Done. This is for small clan leaders who are facing too many freeloading in their clan.
    Last edited by CaptainJackjr; February 24th, 2018 at 02:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainJackjr View Post
    This feature is not for leader who have trust in his clanmates. They will set it minimum to 50 and Done. This is for small clan leaders who are facing too many freeloading in their clan.
    Then boot them or live with it. Only difference being by introducing a minimum people will just leave instead and find another clan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gristy View Post
    Then boot them or live with it. Only difference being by introducing a minimum people will just leave instead and find another clan.
    True. People can just think of themselves , as long as they're getting the rewards. They don't have to think about others.
    Last edited by CaptainJackjr; February 24th, 2018 at 02:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaz1966 View Post
    No. Just no. Firstly, the leader is actively enforcing his/her opinion on everyone else. Secondly, what happens if I agree that the minimum should be 500 points, games kick off and I have 400 points and then, because of this dodgy heart that I've got, I'm whisked off to hospital for the rest of the games? My score doesn't count and I get nothing. Or worse, my score does count towards the clan but I still get nothing anyway. Sure, that's totally fair.

    Besides, I fail to see any good reason why you should be able force a minimum amount on a player. By all means, set out your expectations through clan mail and chat. Kick the .....

    Then don’t join a clan that has the minimum rule you don’t agree with.

    As for the kick, that does nothing to stop new players from joining, doing one task and taking the benefits. There are millions of players plenty of clans so they can do it over and over and over. In a 5 year old clan like mine, it isn’t a worry so we wouldn’t use the tool, but I can understand why others might want to.

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    Completely new Idea. Leader and co-leaders can select players for war. Why not for clan games?
    In this feature. After clan game start clanmates will tap on 'Carwan'. and They will send 'can I join clan games' request it will appear in clan chat. Only leader and co can accept this request. Useful for small clans who want to set their clan settings to 'anyone can join' during this event No other changes in current clan game system.

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    A question for those who are crying over "freeloaders" (lol)...

    If a person contributes only 40 points, and you are able to refuse them rewards, then are you also willing to forfeit those points? Or do you feel entitled to keep the points while denying rewards to the people that earned those points?

    I lead a clan. Games are not mandatory. Towards the end, I encourage everyone to do at least 1 challenge so that they can get the rewards.

    All of this greedy crying over clanmates "freeloading" should be embarrassing for you people doing it. The sheer amount of time that you put into crying about it, thinking about it. Maybe you should consider a hobby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2222 View Post
    Then don’t join a clan that has the minimum rule you don’t agree with.

    As for the kick, that does nothing to stop new players from joining, doing one task and taking the benefits. There are millions of players plenty of clans so they can do it over and over and over. In a 5 year old clan like mine, it isn’t a worry so we wouldn’t use the tool, but I can understand why others might want to.
    So, you think it's OK for any one player to force their will onto any other player then ? Because that's exactly what will happen if such a tool is introduced. One player (leader) would be able to enforce a minimum threshold, below which participants would not receive rewards. Being as how the CG's are meant to stimulate activity and progression, how would that ever be a good thing ? It rewards only the very active and penalises the very casual. That doesn't seem to me to be either a level playing field or what SC is trying to do.

    Stop looking at it from your own clan's point of view( I know you neither need it nor would use it) and try and consider how it might affect other players and other clans. Just because you wouldn't enforce a minimum level doesn't mean a large proportion of clan leaders wouldn't either. I think a lot of them would but I still don't see how that produces a positive outcome for the game in general.

    I agree that new players can join, do one task and take the benefits but so what ? If you're clan is open then you run that risk, same as with wars. There could be more stuff (achievements, last CG score etc) to help with that (as there is with wars), but ultimately, you have to trust a little and hope that it pays off.

    Tell me, what is positive about denying some players a CG reward if they have contributed in some way to the overall score of the clan ?

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    Big deal, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThisMe View Post
    A question for those who are crying over "freeloaders" (lol)...

    If a person contributes only 40 points, and you are able to refuse them rewards, then are you also willing to forfeit those points? Or do you feel entitled to keep the points while denying rewards to the people that earned those points?

    I lead a clan. Games are not mandatory. Towards the end, I encourage everyone to do at least 1 challenge so that they can get the rewards.

    All of this greedy crying over clanmates "freeloading" should be embarrassing for you people doing it. The sheer amount of time that you put into crying about it, thinking about it. Maybe you should consider a hobby.
    I case if you want to know
    Please understand what freeloading is. Player 'A' who is active ( with online feature I'll know) during this whole event, asking for troops, not donating to others, not playing war, low contribution in clan games. No contribution towards my clan. I'm not going let this kind player stay in my clan for single sec after clan game ends. And I am not going to let this player take any challenge in next clan game and kick him before complete the challenge. If there are two players are like this in clan that means after kicking them now only 48 players can contribute from clan.

    I'm​ defending the player 'B' who is good in donations, good in war, and very loyal member of clan for long but was inactive during this event that reason might be his exams or any genuine reason which he already discussed with leader. If that's the reason behind his low contribution. Noone in here is calling Player 'B' freeloader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaz1966 View Post
    So, you think it's OK for any one player to force their will onto any other player then ? Because that's exactly what will happen if such a tool is introduced. One player (leader) would be able to enforce a minimum threshold, below which participants would not receive rewards. Being as how the CG's are meant to stimulate activity and progression, how would that ever be a good thing ? It rewards only the very active and penalises the very casual. That doesn't seem to me to be either a level playing field or what SC is trying to do.

    Stop looking at it from your own clan's point of view( I know you neither need it nor would use it) and try and consider how it might affect other players and other clans. Just because you wouldn't enforce a minimum level doesn't mean a large proportion of clan leaders wouldn't either. I think a lot of them would but I still don't see how that produces a positive outcome for the game in general.

    I agree that new players can join, do one task and take the benefits but so what ? If you're clan is open then you run that risk, same as with wars. There could be more stuff (achievements, last CG score etc) to help with that (as there is with wars), but ultimately, you have to trust a little and hope that it pays off.

    Tell me, what is positive about denying some players a CG reward if they have contributed in some way to the overall score of the clan ?

    As long as the clan leader has to set the rule before the clan game stars, he is forcing his will onto no one. If the players don’t agree with their leader, they can join a different clan, such as mine, which would not have the minimum rule setting.

    Considering the games are meant to stimulate activity, a rule requiring players to spend more than 5 minutes playing in order to get all 8 tiers worth of rewards would not be counter to that goal of stimulating activity. I’m actually a little surprised SC didn’t set a rule of needing to complete one task to get tier 1 reward, 2 tasks for tier 2, etc. given they apparently want more playing (when they just want free automatic progression or loot without playing they simply slice prices or build times, like when they cut over half a billion off the cost of walls).

    Stop looking at it from my clan’s point of view? You yourself just pointed out that you know I’ve said my clan wouldn’t do it. Yes, other leaders my use it and that is their call for their clan. If their members don’t like it, they can find a different clan, just like they can for any other things their leader does that they don’t like. I think you need to instead consider it from someone else’s point of view. If there are players who are having a problem with members doing one simple task and they think such a rule would work well in their clan to encourage those players to do more than one task, who am I to stop them? That is their call. It doesn’t impact me whether I agree or not and if their own players disagree they can go to a clan that is run the way they approve.
    Last edited by 2222; February 24th, 2018 at 06:39 PM.

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