Leader need helps from supercell

[XtremeGamer234]

Hey Holps, where do ya think this thread is going?
Just asking for your opinion.

[Holps]

Hey Holps, where do ya think this thread is going?
Just asking for your opinion.

Threads wander off course from time to time XG but this has been a really good discussion and at 26 pages and counting it obviously finds it's way back to the path OK. Predicting where a thread will go is like trying to nail a jelly to the wall...lets wait and see.

[CaptainJackjr]

Hey Holps, where do ya think this thread is going?
Just asking for your opinion.

You didn't ask me but who is going to stop me?😎. I like the perspective of '2222' about 'optional feature' for clan games. I am totally agree with his point of view.

[gaz1966]

I think that if some sort of tool was available to enforce a minimum score then whilst it probably wouldn't be used in well established and well led clans, it would be used and abused in many clans. The ONLY reason for such a tool is to attempt to force all the other members of the clan to score at least the minimum amount set by the leader. Basically, increasing the leader's power over the other clan members.

People wanting more power over others are generally not wanting it for selfless reasons and this appears to be no different to me.
Just like you can't make anyone attack in war, you shouldn't be able to make them participate in CG by setting a minimum amount and if this tool was available, that is exactly what a lot of clan leaders would do and the reason I'm against it. Nobody should be able to force another player to participate in any aspect of the game, players must remain free to make their own choices.

Just as players can choose which league to farm in, whether or not to push, what and when to upgrade in their village etc they must also remain free to choose whether or not to participate in CG and what level of participation they can obtain. Leaders should not have the ability to take that out of the player's hands.

[CaptainJackjr]

Looks like people are still little confused.
'2222' explained it very well but I will try my best to explain, how this tool/ feature will exactly work.
There will be 'Preparation Day' for clan games, In first 12hrs leader and co will be able to set minimum point (50 to maximum) to get rewards. They can set this minimum after discussing inside Their clan.
Players who don't agree with this minimum can leave and join clan where he agree with Their minimum.

Everything else is same as we've now. Like player can play from only one clan.
Can receive reward from outside.

[Tomville]

Looks like people are still little confused.
'2222' explained it very well but I will try my best to explain, how this tool/ feature will exactly work.
There will be 'Preparation Day' for clan games, In first 12hrs leader and co will be able to set minimum point (50 to maximum) to get rewards. They can set this minimum after discussing inside Their clan.
Players who don't agree with this minimum can leave and join clan where he agree with Their minimum.

Everything else is same as we've now. Like player can play from only one clan.
Can receive reward from outside.

I don’t think I see confusion in others. I understand that you are keen on the idea, and keen it be advocated. I think however you are missing the importance of the final thing he wrote:

This is all just in theory, of course, as SC has the real question to answer: do enough people want it bad enough that it is worth their time to develop it?

There seem to be quite a few here saying that they wouldn’t use it if it were available, along with those saying they don’t think it ought be available at all. That suggests it mightn’t be the best use of SC development time. It’s also not enough even that an idea be popular - SC have to see real enhancement to gameplay in it, from their own dev perspective.

[CaptainJackjr]

I don’t think I see confusion in others. I understand that you are keen on the idea, and keen it be advocated. I think however you are missing the importance of the final thing he wrote:

There seem to be quite a few here saying that they wouldn’t use it if it were available, along with those saying they don’t think it ought be available at all. That suggests it mightn’t be the best use of SC development time. It’s also not enough even that an idea be popular - SC have to see real enhancement to gameplay in it, from their own dev perspective.

Clan who don't want to set minimum point for their clan. They also have to use this feature atleast to set minimum to 50. Everything else you mention that I agree.

[gaz1966]

Looks like people are still little confused.
'2222' explained it very well but I will try my best to explain, how this tool/ feature will exactly work.
There will be 'Preparation Day' for clan games, In first 12hrs leader and co will be able to set minimum point (50 to maximum) to get rewards. They can set this minimum after discussing inside Their clan.
Players who don't agree with this minimum can leave and join clan where he agree with Their minimum.

Everything else is same as we've now. Like player can play from only one clan.
Can receive reward from outside.

No. Just no. Firstly, the leader is actively enforcing his/her opinion on everyone else. Secondly, what happens if I agree that the minimum should be 500 points, games kick off and I have 400 points and then, because of this dodgy heart that I've got, I'm whisked off to hospital for the rest of the games? My score doesn't count and I get nothing. Or worse, my score does count towards the clan but I still get nothing anyway. Sure, that's totally fair.

Besides, I fail to see any good reason why you should be able force a minimum amount on a player. By all means, set out your expectations through clan mail and chat. Kick the ones that don't meet those expectations if you want to, or at the very least, discuss it with them but don't try and force them into doing something that you want them to do. That's the very opposite of fair.

As a leader, I can't make you upgrade a wizard tower or make you attack in multi-player. I also shouldn't be able to make you score 100 points or whatever in CG before you get a reward. Such an ability would take away a players freedom of choice. Are you sure you would still want to play clash if someone else was able to dictate to you what you had to score and was actually able to enforce that and prevent you from obtaining CG rewards ?

Whichever way I look at it, I can see no positive benefits at all, only negative ones.

[XtremeGamer234]

No. Just no. Firstly, the leader is actively enforcing his/her opinion on everyone else. Secondly, what happens if I agree that the minimum should be 500 points, games kick off and I have 400 points and then, because of this dodgy heart that I've got, I'm whisked off to hospital for the rest of the games? My score doesn't count and I get nothing. Or worse, my score does count towards the clan but I still get nothing anyway. Sure, that's totally fair.

Besides, I fail to see any good reason why you should be able force a minimum amount on a player. By all means, set out your expectations through clan mail and chat. Kick the ones that don't meet those expectations if you want to, or at the very least, discuss it with them but don't try and force them into doing something that you want them to do. That's the very opposite of fair.

As a leader, I can't make you upgrade a wizard tower or make you attack in multi-player. I also shouldn't be able to make you score 100 points or whatever in CG before you get a reward. Such an ability would take away a players freedom of choice. Are you sure you would still want to play clash if someone else was able to dictate to you what you had to score and was actually able to enforce that and prevent you from obtaining CG rewards ?

Whichever way I look at it, I can see no positive benefits at all, only negative ones.

Very nicely put, gaz. I was thinking the exact same thing, I just couldn't put it down in words.
After all, it's a player's choice whether to participate in the Games, right?
Hey CaptainJack, what if you were the leader of a clan, and you decided to set a minimum of 500 points or 1000 points after discussing it with your clanmates, and then, you yourself couldn't get that much points, what then?

[zaheerr]

Very nicely put, gaz. I was thinking the exact same thing, I just couldn't put it down in words.
After all, it's a player's choice whether to participate in the Games, right?
Hey CaptainJack, what if you were the leader of a clan, and you decided to set a minimum of 500 points or 1000 points after discussing it with your clanmates, and then, you yourself couldn't get that much points, what then?

If I am the leader and I set minimum of 1000 points and then myself couldn't score 1000 point then I DON'T DESERVE TO TAKE REWARDS. Imo 1000 points is not a big deal to score.