Leader need helps from supercell

[RhaegarTargaryen]

It's like you didn't even read my post... I addressed all of those points before.

Which way is restricting clans the most ? Giving them the option of setting a minimum level of participation, or leaving things as they are and kicking those that don't live up to expectations ?

The tools we have already have been enough for clans to manage perfectly well, be it clan wars or whatever. We don't need an enforced restriction to be able to manage our clans appropriately because we can already do it.

From me: Now to some other points - the obvious retort that many have made to the above comment to others, is "why can't you just manage with a kick tool" or "you must be a terrible leader for not managing your clan". Well, I envy those of you with great clans with players that listen well, and I admire your leadership. In reality though, I think many clans, especially those with low-lying constant turnover will continue to have issues dealing with select clanmates that participate minimally or people intentionally coming just to do one reward. The kick tool, while mildly useful, is not much of a deterrent for people with this behavior or mentality. It's like the real world analogy of a company which hires an intern for the summer, makes clear the requirements, and then has to fire (kick) for underperformance in the first week, BUT then has to pay him/her for the entire summer. Once again - not much of a deterrent.

Besides, if you don't make top tier, so what ? 3 months ago there wasn't any CG, there wasn't any top tier and very few people were complaining about progression speed. Suddenly, it's all about the extra free stuff. You DON'T need it. Game is just the same as it was before without it. Sure, it speeds things up, but that is a bonus, not a necessity. Besides, if you don't unlock the tier you want, there are always gems to do the same thing. Those will only help you though, not your clan mates.

Well actually, this helps my point. If rewards aren't really needed, then why should people who contribute less still get them...they don't NEED them either. That's a poor argument.

[Cire70]

It seems to me that people on here are just here to bash each other and their ideas. People need to read all the posts and understand them, and add constructive ideas to help SC better their game and make it fair for all. Really sad to see and read

[Cilakila]

It seems to me that people on here are just here to bash each other and their ideas. People need to read all the posts and understand them, and add constructive ideas to help SC better their game and make it fair for all. Really sad to see and read

Because this seems to be an important issue to you, I think I see why you would say that. But as someone with no lava hound in this race, I think there is less bashing than a strong sense of "let things be". Reading through this thread it seems many just are very wary of too much control being allowed.

When your argument is as simple as "this is a clan leadership issue" seeing repeated posts arguing otherwise probably gets frustrating. Then, the other side gets irked by the repetition as well. It happens.

[RhaegarTargaryen]

It seems to me that people on here are just here to bash each other and their ideas. People need to read all the posts and understand them, and add constructive ideas to help SC better their game and make it fair for all. Really sad to see and read

I have read every post in this thread, and I agree that some discussion has gotten heated, but there is also good discussion happening as long as people stay level headed. The issue I see is people dismissing one side or another just because they do/don't have the particular issue in their clan.

[iBork]

This is something we are very unlikely to implement. With the Clan Games rewards, everyone wins as a Clan and everyone loses as a Clan...together. It's a collaborative effort that everyone is contributing to and is meant to reward the Clan as a whole, not the individual. It is up to the Clan leadership to manage their Clans in a manner they see fit, through communication.

As it has already been mentioned, it would be very unfair for someone to be removed for not meeting some point requirement if that person's points helped the Clan reach a higher tier of rewards. Everyone's points all contribute towards reaching that reward tier, whether you contributed 3000 or 300 or 50.

That's the beauty of Socialism, it rewards the non productive and penalizes the productive. Well done.

[2222]

No it doesn't. It's CLAN games, not individual rewards games. You get those in multi-player. Rewards should go to all those in a clan who participate, regardless of how much participation they may make. Think "Three musketeers". "All for one, and one for all".

Besides, what if you are 50 points short of the last tier ? If you have set a minimum of 500 points, someone may not wish to do that due to time etc but could easily get the 50 and unlock that last tier. With no minimum they may well do that for the clan, whereas with a minimum of 500 points, why would they even bother ?

Clans are a means to help each other, aren't they ? Why then, would you not want to help some of your clan mates, yet help others ?? Either you are for helping everyone, or you are not. If you don't want to help everyone else in the clan, why are you in one ? other than furthering your own agenda ???

This is partially why in my clan I would not set a minimum points requirement. However, I am totally fine with other clans setting such a requirement, as long as it is obvious the players before they join that clan’s game.

If you don't like that someone put in only 40 pts of effort and gets full tier rewards because you ASKED for a minimum contribution of 500pts - easy peasy, kick them so that they cant do that in your clan ever again....but they still get the rewards.

Well, kicking them isn’t so easy for clans that don’t want to kick and also does nothing for the one war where the person didn’t contribute very much. That said, again, I happen to agree with you and would not set a minimum points amount. It is unclear to me why people would want to prohibit other clans from setting a minimum points requirement. It wouldn’t impact me at all and if they like it better for their clan, go for it. There are lots of clan management tools I would like to have that others probably wouldn’t use and I wouldn’t understand why they would argue against me getting the tools I want.

This is all just in theory, of course, as SC has the real question to answer: do enough people want it bad enough that it is worth their time to develop it?

Not sure why anyone would have an issue with other clan mates benefiting from a free reward. They have to participate at least once to be eligible, and, unlike your suggestion, those points DO count for everyone, not just them.

I’m not sure either, but I’m even less sure why people would have an issue with clans other than their own having the ability to set a minimum points requirement for their own clan.

[XtremeGamer234]

Ok. Y'all know what, let SC introduce that rule, and then we'll see how it goes. Those clans who want to implement it can do so, and those who don't want to, they don't.
BUT, but, if this rule is implemented in clans like mine, or other clans who have a lot of busy people who can't contribute much, then it will be a big drawback for that clan and those busy players. After all, these rewards help them to progress faster, and then, those 'busy' people may be great at war, so these rewards could only help them more, right?
Just stating my opinion.

[Piper139]

24 pages basically restating positions. The reasonable option seems to be just that, an option that could be set by clans but not forced. The question is, does supercel agree. Darian's comments don't seem to support that. There are some things that may make the discussion moot. Enhancements to the games for individual achievements have been mention. Darian did seem supportive of at least keeping the results available longer. So may I respectfully suggest that we all retire to our respective corners and reconvene after we see how things change? Who knows, we may all come back as happy as goblins with full collectors in sight.

[Vaibhav998]

That's the beauty of Socialism, it rewards the non productive and penalizes the productive. Well done.

🙌totally agree!

[CaptainJackjr]

'2222' I think you have to create new thread in 'IDEA and Feature' subforum . I know there are already lot of them but they don't have those little details you are talking about. People looks little confused (after directly jumping in middle of discussion) on this optional feature and how exactly it will benefits to everyone. I'm​ totally​ agree with your point of view.