War Matchmaker Doesn’t Flag Engineered Accounts

[2222]

As has been discussed here before, but just some more confirmation, the war matchmaker doesn’t “flag” engineered accounts. It is a long interview from Darian with lots of good information about other things as well. This was just a small part of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9bEIE36bQM

[Tomville]

It is minute 54 if any want hear first hand without listening to the whole thing.

[StormHeart]

It's odd how something can be said here and then becomes a alternate fact. Flagged as engineered is an example I'll watch but I don't need to watch for that because SC never said there was a flag for engineered. Thanks for the link.

[2222]

It's odd how something can be said here and then becomes a alternate fact. Flagged as engineered is an example I'll watch but I don't need to watch for that because SC never said there was a flag for engineered. Thanks for the link.

Right, SC didn’t, but a website claiming to be sponsored by SC did and then people here started talking about it (and other places as well).

[StormHeart]

You know that video was packed with information and most of it came in the form of "no comment." haha

Right, SC didn’t, but a website claiming to be sponsored by SC did and then people here started talking about it (and other places as well).

[TankSinatra]

I never believed in outright "flagging", but let's not ignore the next sentences (at least from Hemant's notes) -

"We do not flag accounts or bases as engineered (it's just a rumor). It's a symptom of how the weight system works... We try to match THs vs THs. "

If they're trying to roughly match THs, while not ignoring weights, then there's a de facto "match engineers with engineers" effect. A carefully manicured 9.11 can match a weak 10 (or even a 9) on weights alone. Add a loose TH factor, and its more likely to match another 9.11 or full 11. This is what I'm seeing with my clan's 9.11s.

[joshsgrandad]

As has been discussed here before, but just some more confirmation, the war matchmaker doesn’t “flag” engineered accounts. It is a long interview from Darian with lots of good information about other things as well. This was just a small part of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9bEIE36bQM

It is minute 54 if any want hear first hand without listening to the whole thing.

It's odd how something can be said here and then becomes a alternate fact. Flagged as engineered is an example I'll watch but I don't need to watch for that because SC never said there was a flag for engineered. Thanks for the link.

And this is where the top community members, like yourselves, and others, that are too numerous to name come into play. But I think we know who they are.

You guys, in my humble opinion, tend to be unofficial overseers of the site. When you guys speak, people tend to listen ( well, read really). Hate to put pressure on you, but whilst most of us can be wrong, those at the top table are the ones to dispel the myths, and the stuff that is just pure garbage, as members take notice.
.
Good going for putting another one to bed. Special thanks to Darian, for the confirmation.

[2222]

And this is where the top community members, like yourselves, and others, that are too numerous to name come into play. But I think we know who they are.

You guys, in my humble opinion, tend to be unofficial overseers of the site. When you guys speak, people tend to listen ( well, read really). Hate to put pressure on you, but whilst most of us can be wrong, those at the top table are the ones to dispel the myths, and the stuff that is just pure garbage, as members take notice.
.
Good going for putting another one to bed. Special thanks to Darian, for the confirmation.

Well no one listens to me because if they did we would have a minimum defensive weight for each hall by now

[PapaTroll]

I never believed in outright "flagging", but let's not ignore the next sentences (at least from Hemant's notes) -

"We do not flag accounts or bases as engineered (it's just a rumor). It's a symptom of how the weight system works... We try to match THs vs THs. "

If they're trying to roughly match THs, while not ignoring weights, then there's a de facto "match engineers with engineers" effect. A carefully manicured 9.11 can match a weak 10 (or even a 9) on weights alone. Add a loose TH factor, and its more likely to match another 9.11 or full 11. This is what I'm seeing with my clan's 9.11s.

In summarizing Hermant may have oversimplified. Darian said engineering is a symptom of the weight system. When clan wars were being designed they envisioned a system of bases vs bases. I don't believe he said it is happening now (lane checks).

But you should not take my word for it. Watch the video starting at 52:38. He does seem to be choosing his words carefully.

[OnyxDS]

In summarizing Hermant may have oversimplified. Darian said engineering is a symptom of the weight system. When clan wars were being designed they envisioned a system of bases vs bases. I don't believe he said it is happening now (lane checks)..

I'd agree, I think the "symptom of the weight system" was aimed at the existence of engineered bases. Although I think it's probably true that also engineers do match engineers to a large extent, as a symptom of how matches are made (and much of it deliberately and due to the more recent changes)

On the topic of the video, I was surprised more wasn't made of this from Darian:

We have an idea for a system that we're working on. Umm, it's gonna change how clan wars work. Err, we'll share those details as we get close to it. But we're looking at - looking at a new system and it should take care of engineering problem. .... It'll be this year.

He doesn't say it's a change to how the MM works. He says it's a change to how wars work. No-dip wars, here we come