Engineering is solved – I can prove

[rmshh]

for four years I was a passive user of this forum, but now it is time for my first post.

I’m the leader of a level 10 clan with over 210 wins. Call it a normal clan with normal people.

I understood the complaining about engineers in the last years – we adopt it and used some defenseless or .5 in our wars.

But something changed in the end of 2017.

Now I’m lucky when I see engineered bases in the rooster of the opponent, because I know it is an overall advantage for my clan

Why do I know this?

We are now on a 24:1 win streak – the one we lost was by our own stupidy not caused by the attacks of the opponent.

We are far away from an elite clan, maybe our attack skills are slightly above average, but this is not the explanition for what has happend in the last months.

Mainly our wars are not close – we are dominating

Last 10 results:
75:71
75:39
57:44
59:58
58:54
58:55
58:35
58:50
44:41
42:40

We max all bases, also have high heros and walls. The only „not max“ is a TH11 with TH9/10 Def. (once was defenseless, but building def for one year now). At the top we have two new TH11 (upgraded last December from fully maxed TH10 with 40/40 Hero). Then we have 3-5 TH10, 5-10 TH9, rest TH8 and lower.

All bases are maxing on there TH level and go up after maxing. X/Inferno/Eagle are the least defences we build on each level.

Usually the number of TH11 and TH10 is nearly equal. And the opponents can’t 3star our top bases. We have no problem to 3star their engineered bases.

I have really no problems with TH11 on 19 and 20 – they can’t 3star my top.

Maybe these are surprising news for the forum, but this is our reality and I wanted to share.

[ThelastTroop]

This is not the usual fresh spawn post lol. Good read

[2222]

I'm happy to hear it is working for you. That is not the case for all, even those without engineering in their clans. Check out threads on this in the war subforum (where your thread will get moved). Most do think avoiding any engineering in the clan at all is a big help in getting more fair matches. Unfortunately, it doesn't always work. The war matchmaker still has a long way to go.

[djaroela]

I agree. We tested it in three wars, and conclusion was: Engineering is 'fixed'.

We used only normal villages in those three wars (TH9- build xbow. TH10- build inferno. TH11- build eagle). No rushing, just normal villages. Each match we got also had normal villages. Though, the last time we faced one with a TH11 engineer at the bottom who used a powerpotion. But he didn't know how to use them, and failed on TH10 and TH11.

Note that normally we do use 'engineers'. We have a TH10 who is basically a max TH9, but we used powerpotion whenever we needed another try on those TH10's. If that was no problem, he'd just go attacking the TH9.

Conclusion of this mini-test: Engineering will only screw you in war if you also have engineers and dont use them properly.

[Tomo08384]

I sure hope it's the end of engineered bases. I have a max 11 and yes a engineered th10😤 That I have been tring to un engineer for months now My max 11 is in a cwl clan. But I wanted to see what it was like in a engineered clan so I brought my th10 there. It was the most boring war I have ever seen. Nothing like watching a bunch of th11s pound on th9s. I really hope sc keeps pushing out engineered bases. I saw first hand how it is killing the game.

[Damiz]

Unfortunately whilst this may solve 'engineering' for your clan, in fails to solve it for a good majority of others.

If everybody had max bases than there would be no engineering. The reality is that a lot of clans are made up of bases in war ranging from TH7 up to TH11 with normally only a few max bases at the top.

Most below TH11 are progressing their bases and working through the grind. They should not be excluded from wars simply because they are not maxed.

Engineering remains and will remain for the foreseeable for most clans I fear although this mismatchs are getting better imo.

[Tomo08384]

I also wanted to add that in my cwl clan even when we do random spins we never ever pull a engineered clan. I'm not exactly sure why. But we never do.

[BlindHaze]

I'll believe it when certain clans lose their 300+ win streaks.

[SumoSloth]

I find it interesting how someone's measure of whether clan war matchmaking (ie. the engineering problem) is solved is based on the fact that they've suddenly won a bunch of wars in a row. (actually I find it puzzling) If anything this shows me that the MM is still very much broken especially if as the OP suggests that they are a very average clan.

What this info tells me is that the MM has been skewed in the OPs favour for the past 25 matches which raises red flags all over the place for me. Fair matches regardless of the make up of the bases should be the goal for any matchmaker, unfortunately what I've been seeing lately is a lot more of "I lost so the matchmaker is broken" or the opposite "I won so the matchmaker must be fixed" Neither of which is in any way a valid way of determining matchmaker success or failure.

[rmshh]

Well, I didn‘t say MM is solved, right? But that was my point. Obviously the pendlelum is moving to the other side.