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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionOne View Post
    If you truly enjoy and play clan games, you would know it is an unfair system.
    Everyone receives the same rewards for participation, as stated in the rules so I would say it's fair. It's a legitimate system for receiving rewards by achieving the goals set forth.

    Quote Originally Posted by MinionOne View Post
    Defeat x number of inferno towers or x number of eagle artillery in a short time frame is worth less than gathering few hundred % in multiplayer attacks in a day.
    Donating spells worth so little - considered the amount of DE required, compared to cutting down some trees.
    Yeah, some challenges are geared towards 10s and 11s, while others are practically a handout for the TH8s and lower. It wouldn't be fair if an entire clan of TH8 members got only Eagle challenges. All clans get the same pool of challenges, it's not the system's fault if a clan does not have a member to complete the challenge.

    Quote Originally Posted by MinionOne View Post
    For small clans, it is mathematically impossible to reach tier 5 - and you believe this is okay?.
    Correction, for a clan smaller than 8 it is mathematically impossible to reach tier 5. This is also why they lowered the book to tier 4 in the last games.

    Quote Originally Posted by MinionOne View Post
    Cloud issue - for TH11s, the rewards, while still great, aren't really that huge of a deal and it is affecting their main objective so all these.... "just drop trophies - this is not an issue" comments is just people rubbing it in, rather than actually being helpful.
    Yup, everyone knows clouds is an issue. That's why there are also builder base quests and other quests available to those in legends.

    Quote Originally Posted by MinionOne View Post
    A lot of people are flat out lying to themselves about enjoying clan games - you guys enjoy the rewards, not the clan games. We had personal quests before with gems, people didn't rave about it. It's the books and to a lesser extent, potions which people love. If you truly "enjoy" clan games AND you want people to stop complaining then do this: you play the clan games and give the rewards to people in small clans which cannot possible get them. You wouldn't do that even if SC offered that option would you? So, don't stop people pointing out there are issues with clan games.
    Nope, I also enjoy the competition of trying to reach max points before other members. Depends on the event. If it's an event, like ice baby, where I'm using troops I enjoy I rave about it in clan chat and sometimes mention it on the forums. Yeah, lots of people are really enjoying the rewards. Well there's no way for me to give rewards to others. Besides, it's called clan games, not "charity games". I would most certainly hook up other accounts with rewards, starting with my own if I could. I've invited friends from small clans that I know are not getting rewards into my clan so they can get the rewards. The next best thing. I'd invite more too, especially if they are dedicated war players.

    A complaint is different from constructive criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionOne View Post
    If you truly enjoy and play clan games, you would know it is an unfair system.

    Defeat x number of inferno towers or x number of eagle artillery in a short time frame is worth less than gathering few hundred % in multiplayer attacks in a day.
    Donating spells worth so little - considered the amount of DE required, compared to cutting down some trees.

    For small clans, it is mathematically impossible to reach tier 5 - and you believe this is okay?

    Cloud issue - for TH11s, the rewards, while still great, aren't really that huge of a deal and it is affecting their main objective so all these.... "just drop trophies - this is not an issue" comments is just people rubbing it in, rather than actually being helpful.

    A lot of people are flat out lying to themselves about enjoying clan games - you guys enjoy the rewards, not the clan games. We had personal quests before with gems, people didn't rave about it. It's the books and to a lesser extent, potions which people love. If you truly "enjoy" clan games AND you want people to stop complaining then do this: you play the clan games and give the rewards to people in small clans which cannot possible get them. You wouldn't do that even if SC offered that option would you? So, don't stop people pointing out there are issues with clan games.
    Paragraph one: I enjoy clan games and don't know it is an unfair system. Larger clans such as mine have got all the tiers so far. Smaller clans will struggle more than mine simply due to numbers - I know that, as it is logical.

    Paragraph four: lying. Not a nice thing to say about complete strangers. I enjoy the rewards certainly, in my opinion getting to the last tier as a clan is satisfying. Doing the somewhat basic challenges and working out how to do them the simplest way is mildly challenging and therefore enjoyable when it is achieved.

    Lastly, take a moment to consider the intent of SC promoting this new challenge activity. It has been touted as a means to getting clans back to where they once were. Lot's of talking, banter and donations. Involvement in other words.

    If you choose to stay in a small clan rather than seek out a larger clan, then that is your choice. Best of luck to you. Choices have consequences however, staying in a smaller clan will make getting maximum benefit from the Clan Challenges very difficult. Your strident comments mask some good issues which is a shame. Come up with some positive ideas and people may prove more receptive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionOne View Post
    If you truly enjoy and play clan games, you would know it is an unfair system.



    For small clans, it is mathematically impossible to reach tier 5 - and you believe this is okay?
    Why does this keep getting mentioned? this is not only ok, this is totally logical.

    I have left my clan of three years or so and am now in a clan of five me accounts. Well, four and a dead account of a friend. I will not be able to do clan games. That is a choice. Now, I will go to join a clan that I have a mini in to complete the games. Good for me and good for the clan I am joining.

    But no one was forced to be in a small clan. They chose to be, perhaps because they like a small clan or they do not enjoy the grind of recruiting and so have become smaller with people leaving or inactives. It happens. They have the choice to leave, but for reasons that are genuine and logical they stay. But that choice to stay has consequences that are totally consequences and not petty, unfair punishments. Its a small clan.

    I do not like having cold weather, and I suppose when I graduate I will have the choice to move south, but I like it here. So I will choose to stay in a place that is often cold, though I do not get the perks of Southern California. Choices.
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    Absolutely fair clan games? Put a giant purple button on the load screen. When any person in the clan taps the button, everyone in the clan instantly receives maximum rewards. Easy.

    But not really a challenge.

    Plus, someone would miss clicking the button and complain.
    Meanwhile, in the builder base, a tired Battle Machine operator limps home. He is bruised by giant cannon balls. His spine is compressed by crushers. His hair and beard is singed by roasters. He pours three fingers of Old Tennessee, and slumps into a rocking chair. He stares morosely at at an empty rug in front of a cold fireplace. A single tear escapes his left eye.

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    It's not generous. They need to retain people because the grinding is getting ridiculous. That's one way to stop people getting alienated while still providing content.

    Don't praise Supercell to the heaven for providing 'generosity' when it's clear this move is because they're a profit-driven company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigablaster2017 View Post
    It's not generous. They need to retain people because the grinding is getting ridiculous. That's one way to stop people getting alienated while still providing content.

    Don't praise Supercell to the heaven for providing 'generosity' when it's clear this move is because they're a profit-driven company.
    How on earth is FREE stuff not generous?

    I took 60 gems from tiers 1-3 last time, pennies worth; but there are, no doubt, millions who took some of the gems available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionOne View Post
    If you truly enjoy and play clan games, you would know it is an unfair system.

    Defeat x number of inferno towers or x number of eagle artillery in a short time frame is worth less than gathering few hundred % in multiplayer attacks in a day.
    Donating spells worth so little - considered the amount of DE required, compared to cutting down some trees.
    Unfair or not is subjective. I find it fair because I can easily find a weak base in a low trophy range and raid them to destroy inferno/EA, but will be hard for guys in high trophy to do it in the time given. That is why there are 10 (or more) challenges available, pick what fits you and let your clan do what fit them. They don't give only 1 challenge and force you to do it.

    For small clans, it is mathematically impossible to reach tier 5 - and you believe this is okay?
    Yes I do believe it is okay. Being in a populated and active clan should have more perks over those small size clan. If you choose to stay/make the clan small and not recruit, it is YOUR/leader fault. Do you think SC needs to baby feed everyone?
    And not getting all the tiers are not even that bad. If I were in a clan with 5 people, I would be happy to get the tier 4 reward from last clan games because I know people tried their best to contribute. It does not say "You must get all tiers to play clan games" anywhere though.


    Cloud issue - for TH11s, the rewards, while still great, aren't really that huge of a deal and it is affecting their main objective so all these.... "just drop trophies - this is not an issue" comments is just people rubbing it in, rather than actually being helpful.

    A lot of people are flat out lying to themselves about enjoying clan games - you guys enjoy the rewards, not the clan games.
    This is YOUR opinion. Please don't feel free to put your thoughts into people's head.
    We had personal quests before with gems, people didn't rave about it. It's the books and to a lesser extent, potions which people love. If you truly "enjoy" clan games AND you want people to stop complaining then do this: you play the clan games and give the rewards to people in small clans which cannot possible get them. You wouldn't do that even if SC offered that option would you? So, don't stop people pointing out there are issues with clan games.
    SC offered the option though. It is called "Recruit". Ever heard of it?
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    I agree with OP, there are so much non-sense complaining for something free.
    Giving constructive feedback about clan games is good, but "I want my small clan to get all tiers without a lot of effort pls change the system" is not one. SC has lowered the point cap so much that a 8 active people clan can get all tiers, and people still don't want to work for it while thinking they deserve something big.

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    they complain because they only think about their self. lol
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