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    .5’s affecting lineups

    Hey guys, so currently im playing a th8-th10 ranged war lineup and i have a th9 that recently went to th10 i was wondering if i included him him in, will it affect war match making, causing match making inbalence? Is it safe? My lineup consist of 1 th10 with fernos, 6 max d 9’s, 2 8.5’s 6 th8’s, no engineers. Let me know asap pls and thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bou3a View Post
    Hey guys, so currently im playing a th8-th10 ranged war lineup and i have a th9 that recently went to th10 i was wondering if i included him him in, will it affect war match making, causing match making inbalence? Is it safe? My lineup consist of 1 th10 with fernos, 6 max d 9’s, 2 8.5’s 6 th8’s, no engineers. Let me know asap pls and thank you
    Yes, it will have an effect which can be ok as long as the th10 above is a strong attacker.
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    No-one really understands the MM fully. 9.5s do seem to cause problems, but it's probably the imbalance between their offence and defence. So if he's new and doesn't have much of anything he's probably OK. If he doesn't want to rush defence too far ahead of offence, one option is to drop just one inferno early (eg before last camp is upgraded) and wait on the second inferno - that probably keeps the account as much in balance as anything will

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bou3a View Post
    Hey guys, so currently im playing a th8-th10 ranged war lineup and i have a th9 that recently went to th10 i was wondering if i included him him in, will it affect war match making, causing match making inbalence? Is it safe? My lineup consist of 1 th10 with fernos, 6 max d 9’s, 2 8.5’s 6 th8’s, no engineers. Let me know asap pls and thank you
    A new th10 isn't much different than a max th9. If anything, those two 8.5s might impact your match negatively, but I wouldn't worry about a new th10. The harder question becomes when to drop the infernos. When is the new th10 no longer a new th10 and more like a 9.5 in the eyes of the matchmaker?

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    I'll tell you the secret...
    If you are max th9 go to th10, first for all please put your infernos and upgrade all of your exist defense, and you will stand on 81K war weight and 73K offense weight....
    and last to do Camps and spell factory upgrading when everything had been done on th10.
    Fully reverse all you know defenseless .5 path.

    That's very powerful but seems no one tried yet. I did one and I'm sure it's great.
    Because it's defeated by middle th11 offense, not th10. No inferno th10 is easier to be 3 stared by same th10 and no efficient.
    A max TH9 to TH10 player, upgrade Camps and Spell Factory will gain a terrible offense weight, you should upgrade your valk or lava to next level first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bou3a View Post
    2 8.5’s ... no engineers
    IMHO these two statements are contradictory, if we accept engineering is the act of building an account specifically to war with, to gain some advantage in the war mm, then .5s are engineering ...

    Meanwhile a new town hall is not engineering, it is just a new town hall. Try to balance defensive and attack upgrades and there should be no great problem caused, or at least that is what I would hope!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobeone View Post
    IMHO these two statements are contradictory, if we accept engineering is the act of building an account specifically to war with, to gain some advantage in the war mm, then .5s are engineering ...

    Meanwhile a new town hall is not engineering, it is just a new town hall. Try to balance defensive and attack upgrades and there should be no great problem caused, or at least that is what I would hope!
    IMO, it doesn't really matter what we consider to be engineering or exact definitions. It's what the MM is recognizing or seeing as lopsided and using to match with other clans. For the last 2-3 months, TH x.5s seem to be drawing a well balanced / max TH at the same level, or one above it. X.5s used to work with the previous MM, but seem to be "hurting" clans now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobeone View Post
    IMHO these two statements are contradictory, if we accept engineering is the act of building an account specifically to war with, to gain some advantage in the war mm, then .5s are engineering ...

    Meanwhile a new town hall is not engineering, it is just a new town hall. Try to balance defensive and attack upgrades and there should be no great problem caused, or at least that is what I would hope!
    Correct, those 8.5s are engineered.

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    I would like to offer the dissenting opinion, as I do so often on this topic.

    You can get an imperfect match with or without .5s in the lineup.

    Your 9.5 can mirror a max9, another 9.5 or a 10 at any time and in multiple wars will probably mirror all of them at one time or another.

    Inferno towers are still late game defenses and still carry a LOT of war weight. Placing extra war weight will be counter balanced with extra war weight in the opposition clan. Recent mm changes have been more subtle than implied by youtubers and the penalty for any type of engineering, be it .5 or single cannon TH11 has not been sufficient to erase the benefits.

    There is no impetus to make a massive change to the way you have always played the game. Put your players in the war and have fun.
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    Here is my roster
    Th11 full
    Th10 full
    Th 9.5
    Th 9
    Th 8.5
    Th 8.5
    Th 8.5
    Th 10
    Th 10
    Th 5
    Th 5
    Th4
    Th4
    Th3
    Th3

    1 of 3 matches are against no enginereed clans sometimes yes, I like to have some 8.5 because enemies 2 of 3 times get a well advantadge in the th9 section but we have the advantadge upper, I advice you that ever run full ths on the top 2 at least, 99% wars are decided by the first 2 or 3 townhalls.

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