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    Raged Barbarians...not so OP anymore....

    Ive been seeing the occasional post this last week from players saying things along the lines that RBs are less effective than they used to be, or that theyre seeing lower destruction percentages. Some have said this was because they recently finished upgrading their Roaster and MultiMortar, sometimes Crushers too.

    I think were a bit over a month into BH7 now. A number of the more active players have been long recommending that everyone upgrade some of the big guns first to cope with ground troops like the RB. Ive long maintained that the perceived imbalance wrought by RBs is more an issue of overly rushed defense than anything else.

    Im curious to know - how many of you upgraded these key defenses and are experiencing better results against RBs (or not as good of results using them in attacks)?
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    I still get some awesome RB attacks in the 90 - 100 range against my base with skillful deployment.

    But far more often I get attacks in the 40 - 75 range. My roaster, MM and 1 crusher are L7
    A few point defenses are also starting to be L7 but everything else is L6.

    I'm in the 4300 trophy range +/- 150 for the last week or so.
    Last edited by Klavious; November 17th, 2017 at 06:11 PM.

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    My defenses are mostly 6 because i'm still working on my GC, just now getting it to 4. Bombarian attacks generally 50-75% 2 stars on my base, but where i'm noticing the Defense is on my attacks (4150 range). A week or so ago i was hanging around 3800 and was rolling bases, but now i'm running into level 5-7 big cannons combined with 7 plasma cannons with a few 7 crushers and those bases are a much tougher nut to crack. High percentage 2 stars is much harder now.

    It is funny though, how the RB OP has suddenly quieted down.

    My other acct i use Mitch in the same trophy range and its far more effective.
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    No offense, but I think this is missing the point. I'm sure the majority of BH7s are now getting the higher defenses where they can cope better against RBs and other level 14 attacks, but that doesn't mean the problem has magically disappeared for early BH7s.

    The fact still remains that it just takes a few days to get max RBs once reaching BH7, which drastically changes the game from a high 1*, low 2* game to a 75%-100% 2* game.

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    I started BH7 upgrades pretty much following your guide. Firecrackers first, etc...
    But then I was constantly getting Barb raids so I switched to the big guns that target ground or both air/ground and have been doing better as they complete. Roaster7/MM7/GC7(1 more day) and then I'll keep going on ground/combo stuff DC, AT, HT.

    Never really have an issue with air yet. Guess I'll throw AB in there sometime soon to make sure I'm good for the future. Don't expect that to hurt too much at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fplant View Post
    No offense, but I think this is missing the point. I'm sure the majority of BH7s are now getting the higher defenses where they can cope better against RBs and other level 14 attacks, but that doesn't mean the problem has magically disappeared for early BH7s.

    The fact still remains that it just takes a few days to get max RBs once reaching BH7, which drastically changes the game from a high 1*, low 2* game to a 75%-100% 2* game.
    No offense but I don't really see that as a problem.

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    I don't think I can answer the questions directly so I will just give my personal examples..

    I have 2 accts.

    1 (air - minion drops main strat) bought the cannon pack and never missed a loot cycle

    2 (ground - bombarion main strat) f2p and missed a few loot cycles

    My air acct went straight to the big gun upgrades, and dropship (all done) 8 - 2 day upgrades left plus some traps. Just broke 5k trophies today.. (bm11)

    My ground acct. has L7 roaster, L5 GC, all the rest L6. max rb and L11bomber. Broke 4800 trophies today..

    So with the defensive advantage my air account has, I'd say (in my hands at least) the two strats are fairly equal..


    With that, I would recommend anyone new to Bh7 to go with barbs first (fast and cheap) to easily stay above 4K and then work on your other troops

    BTW - using your base Noc - thanks - working great

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    Quote Originally Posted by fplant View Post
    No offense, but I think this is missing the point. I'm sure the majority of BH7s are now getting the higher defenses where they can cope better against RBs and other level 14 attacks, but that doesn't mean the problem has magically disappeared for early BH7s.

    The fact still remains that it just takes a few days to get max RBs once reaching BH7, which drastically changes the game from a high 1*, low 2* game to a 75%-100% 2* game.
    Well it actually takes 7 lab days and 4.2 mil elixir but in comparison its still the fastest and easiest route yes. But I agree with Klavious, i don't see why thats an issue. The game is far , far more entertaining (even when losing) getting high 2 stars and the occasional 3 stars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesHowlet View Post
    Well it actually takes 7 lab days and 4.2 mil elixir but in comparison its still the fastest and easiest route yes. But I agree with Klavious, i don't see why thats an issue. The game is far , far more entertaining (even when losing) getting high 2 stars and the occasional 3 stars.
    It's a problem mostly because of the draws. It's much more likely to get draws when the range of winning scores is so tight. Getting multiple draws on your daily attacks just drags out your attacks. Not only that, but to me it's a huge letdown when you work hard to get a 3* just to find out that your opponent got the same thing.

    Another reason is, maybe you don't like ground attacks. While you're spending all the extra time and loot getting (for example) max drop ships, you can't compete against the barbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fplant View Post
    It's a problem mostly because of the draws. It's much more likely to get draws when the range of winning scores is so tight. Getting multiple draws on your daily attacks just drags out your attacks. Not only that, but to me it's a huge letdown when you work hard to get a 3* just to find out that your opponent got the same thing.

    Another reason is, maybe you don't like ground attacks. While you're spending all the extra time and loot getting (for example) max drop ships, you can't compete against the barbs.
    But it's a temporary drag that clears itself rather quickly.

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