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    Quote Originally Posted by Klavious View Post
    Near as I can tell there seem to be 3 cases where non-engineered clans are still running into heavily engineered clans

    #1 Larger wars. There seems to be a correlation between the size of the war and the probability of encountering and engineered clan.

    #2 Large spread in THs participating in war. The larger the spread, the higher the probability of drawing an engineered clan.

    #3 Simple bad luck.
    All 3 statements are not true.
    1. If you read related topic - 10vs10 got same issue as 50 vs 50. From my experience same thing.
    2. We have th10-8 and have exactly same issue as clans with th3-to11.
    3. Its not BAD LUCK, its a BUG in matchmaking system which give SIGNIFICANT advantage for engineered bases.

    I have the solution already. If SC is not changing this I have solution 2 -
    Our clan has stopped warring.

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    I think the more higher level THs you can fill the roster with the less the chance of hitting an engineered clan.
    - Partially agree here. If you set all maxed TH11s there is no point of engineering, due to the fast that opposite LOW WW would never let broken SC system to match vs ur all maxed TH11.

    Opposite situation - if you have all lower ths and match vs engineered clan you have NO CHANCE.
    Last edited by MaxBusters; November 8th, 2017 at 08:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxBusters View Post
    All 3 statements are not true.
    1. If you read related topic - 10vs10 got same issue as 50 vs 50. From my experience same thing.
    2. We have th10-8 and have exactly same issue as clans with th3-to11.
    3. Its not BAD LUCK, its a BUG in matchmaking system which give SIGNIFICANT advantage for engineered bases.

    I have the solution already. If SC is not changing this I have solution 2 -
    I didn't say 10v10 wars couldn't match with engineers. I simply said the probability of a nonengineered clan matching with an engineered clan is smaller in 10x10 and 15x15 wars than 20, 25, 30, 40 or 50 wars. It still can happen, it's just less often. If you are still getting a lot of engineered clans in 10x10 wars when not running any engineered bases and a tight TH roster spread, then your experience with MM and mine are different.

    It doesn't make either of us right or wrong, just that our data sets are different.

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    I too faced this problem 😰. But I kept some low level TH bases in top line which had helped me sometimes.

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    They rolled out MM changes a few months ago. They said they werent done, they said they needed to monitor the matchups and tweek the formula in future updates.

    My clan has had better matchups overall since the update. We've had lopsided ones to our disadvantage, but i would say out of the last 10, we've had 3 where we had no shot, 4 were very winnable, and 3 could have gone either way based on percentage it was darn close. That's better than before the MM changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klavious View Post
    I didn't say 10v10 wars couldn't match with engineers. I simply said the probability of a nonengineered clan matching with an engineered clan is smaller in 10x10 and 15x15 wars than 20, 25, 30, 40 or 50 wars. It still can happen, it's just less often. If you are still getting a lot of engineered clans in 10x10 wars when not running any engineered bases and a tight TH roster spread, then your experience with MM and mine are different.

    It doesn't make either of us right or wrong, just that our data sets are different.
    - Probability is a certain calculation. How u get your result?
    - Again, if you read above, as I said and agreed - if you have 10 th11s u would not see opposite engineered. This equally applies to any clan size.

    Your conclusions might be based on the fact of using more lower levels in bigger size wars.
    However if u would use 50 th11s ur chances to hit engineered clan = 0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesHowlet View Post
    My clan has had better matchups overall since the update. .
    - Completely opposite for us.

    I have solution. Let clan leader cancel matched war during for example first hour after matching, if he/she feels it is a mismatch. easy doable.

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    We run 10v10 and 15v15. Usually 1 or 2 th11, 4 or 5 th10, 4 or 5 th9, maybe a couple of 8s. Depends on who is available. Mix of .5s (usually relatively new to th) and maxers. We've been getting pretty close matches. Sometimes a bit towards us, sometimes towards them. Our worst, on paper was the last war. We had even th11 and 10s. However, our botom 4 out of 15 were 8s. Their bottom 4 were 9s. We still by one star because our 10s could dip better than theirs and our max 9s defended well. Bottom line, it seems to be working better for some clans than others. Don't know why without access to the data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klavious View Post
    Near as I can tell there seem to be 3 cases where non-engineered clans are still running into heavily engineered clans

    #1 Larger wars. There seems to be a correlation between the size of the war and the probability of encountering and engineered clan.

    #2 Large spread in THs participating in war. The larger the spread, the higher the probability of drawing an engineered clan.

    #3 Simple bad luck.
    Add closet engineering to the mix as well. A ton (though nowhere near all) of the complaints involve heavy .5s/roster engineers suddenly finding themselves out-engineered.
    It's always the closet engineers that are the most bitter. Trying to maintain a righteous pose while doing exactly what they claim to hate, lashing out at anyone that points out the obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesHowlet View Post
    My clan has had better matchups overall since the update. .
    - Completely opposite for us.

    I have solution. Let clan leader cancel matched war during for example first hour after matching, if he/she feels it is a mismatch. easy doable.

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