Engineereds have ruined the game and SC doesn’t care

[SirAoftheHaven]

Everyone knows the matchups don’t work. Engineereds have caused this game to be completely unplayable if you’re a clan that doesn’t use them. We just had a solid war, everything three starred up to their top 3 max 45/45/20 th11s which all were twoed. Then comes their #15 which matches against a low th9. Threes a new th11 which happens to be our #3. How does that make sense you ask? Well this #15 upon checking his profile basically gemmed a pure engineered th11. Max heroes, max war troops, max spells, no defenses. So since the engineereds are so obviously profitable to Supercell, why do anything about it? Forget that clans that used to win 90%+ of fair matchups are now lucky to get wins 10% of the time. Who cares that people who have spent years and a good bit of money also playing this game are dropping like flies. It’s obvious the activity is nowhere near what it once was but why would Supercell fix the glaring issues? Instead they’ll give us some new troop or a whole new game (BB) to mollify those last few loyal to the game for a little while. If a solid clan with solid members can’t even hope for a winnable matchup, what is the point? I’m sure we’ll see some Update soon that says matchup fix, but when have any of those actually done anything to help? Make the townhall the highest war weight building. An 11 should never match with a th9. I don’t care how much that th9 level 11 paid.

[TankSinatra]

Looks like you just need to vent a little and that's fine. If you want to know more about how matchmaking, this forum, and SC work you should start here -

https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...AQ-Matchmaking

[SirAoftheHaven]

So after reading that, it says exactly what I stated. Supercell doesn’t care that matchmaking is universally junk. They’ll make bandage fixes but don’t see anything wrong with those exploiting a “loophole” as described in the post you recommended. And as you said, all I am doing on this forum is venting, since supercell doesn’t actually listen to it’s consumers. Also stated in the post. I have a great clan and I’ll continue playing due to the camaraderie, but as I watch good people get fed up and leave, I wonder how much longer that will last.

[AFrostyBlaze]

many engineered clans are struggling so idk...seems like some on both sides of the spectrum are having issues.

my clan doesn't engineer and the matchmaking changes were very kind to us, only 2 losses in the last 30 wars.

sometimes we match engineers, sometimes we don't, either way we just go out there and do our thing. to be honest, the engineered clans are easier to beat because they usually have weaker defenses

[SuperStorm103]

many engineered clans are struggling so idk...seems like some on both sides of the spectrum are having issues.

my clan doesn't engineer and the matchmaking changes were very kind to us, only 2 losses in the last 30 wars.

sometimes we match engineers, sometimes we don't, either way we just go out there and do our thing. to be honest, the engineered clans are easier to beat because they usually have weaker defenses

In some cases yes (at least it used to be that way) now days, it's not always true. I have been in multiple matches where one side wins both offense and defense. A little more common now currently. Got a decent match over in CWSF which gives me a little comfort that the MMA isn't completely broken, but it's definitely not as good as it was a few months ago where we went like 17 or so wars with no complaints. But those were longer search times I think. They seemed to have relaxed the matching parameters again to speed up match times.

[2222]

It appears to me the problem with your match isn’t that the other clan had an engineered th11. The problem is the other clan had 3 max th11s and you did not. The mismatch was at #3. Your base was a new th11 that could be 3 starred. Their base was a max th11 that is very very rarely going to be 3 starred.

[WH7DX]

Its usually all the same issue. Not enough care is taken in matching up the top several players properly.

I agree, SC has taken a “spoiled child” stance on this and has decided to just look the other way trying to appease them lol

[stealthmtn]

I do not think the mm is bad because SC does not care at all, but because they are so disconnected from how seriously some people play this game. Their standards of acceptable matches differs significantly from many of the forumers, who can be labeled as at least somewhat serious, since we are posting our opinions on a message board after all.

While we can identify a mismatch, we do not get to see the others in the pool at the same time. So, us concludinhg something is not fair may not be applicable IF that was the best possible match possible. Then, the issue comes down to pool size, not parameters. We just dont know - except for Dorsan, who could probably give API data on this claim.

From a players perspective, it would be really nice of SC would give some of the forum war experts a look at the data with a NDA. Our eye tests could really help them improve the mm as a whole. Never going to happen though.

[WH7DX]

All we ask is fair or close. We do spend way too many hrs in war and for most the war record is important.

So asking for the some what close matchup shouldnt be an issue and avoiding the 3max 11s with eagles to 1 max and 2 lower lv 11 is beyond common sense.

[SplashBuzz]

Forget that clans that used to win 90%+ of fair matchups are now lucky to get wins 10% of the time.

So your mad that supercell changed the MM from one that allowed a 90% win rate for certain clans to a 90% win rate for other clans? Seems like sour grapes.