Clan War Mismatch - Gathering new infoz (again for science)

[nobeone]

Sigh, third match out of four against some form of engineering:

Clan ID:#LQLQ228J
Clan name:A New Hope
War Start Date: 5/4/2018
War Start Time (GMT): 00:12 I think!
Comment: We seem to be in a rut of engineered matches, we are all balanced, 2 x TH11, 4 x TH10, 4 x TH9, 10 x TH8, no engineering, no roster engineering, they are 5 x TH11 various degrees of engineering, 2 x TH10, 5 x TH9, 6 x TH8, with an extra TH9 and TH10 hidden in amongst the TH8s. A whole bunch of engineered. I know from experience of discussing these types of matches with engineering war forumers that this may well not be a mismatch as such, but power potion makes it an absolute lottery, they can dip, double dip and never have to use a TH8 attack, we will have to fight our own TH level all the way, no chance for dips and never double dips. Please, please, please, for the love of war, STOP POWER POTION so these matches are fairer?!!? If we must keep meeting engineers with high TH levels stop giving them such a stupidly easy ride or I will be forced to follow suit, making the balanced war pool even smaller ...

[inderkutumb]

Clan ID: 2009QGRQ9
Clan Name: RNG FISH MARKET
War Start Date: 04/April/2018
War Start Time (GMT): 03:00 Pm

[RohanRamdharne]

Clan ID:#2QG2PR2P
Clan name: Indian Clashers
War Start Date: 04-April-2018
War Start Time (GMT): 6:15 AM
Comment:


WE HAD A WAR RECENTLY AGAINST "war star asia(#Q99GU2L8)"

WE HAD
-19 TH11(4 NEW TH11)
-5 TH10.5
-6 TH10
-13 TH9
-4 TH8
-1 TH7


WHILE THE OPPONENT HAD
-15 TH11(ALL MAXED OUT)
-6 TH10.5(MAX OFFENSE)
-14 TH10
-3 TH9,5
-12 TH9


WE HAVE BEEN HAVING SIMILAR BREAK DOWNS WITH UN EVEN TOWN HALL LEVELS BEING MATCHED MOSTLY PUTTING US AT A DISADVANTAGE

[DRUSSW]

Don’t worry. Someone will be along soon to explain why your clan was just asking for a mismatch. Seems it’s easier to blame the “victim”. 😂
Guess it’s like the girl who wears the short skirt to a party. Rather than finding a way to let her enjoy the party, the forum explains it was her fault bad things happened. 😕👎

😂😂 Agree 100% with the short skirt analogy,fault lies with the MMA not the war roster, s/c think they have a fix to it incoming on summer update ..lets hope so if entry level players th6,7,8 carnt participate in wars the future player base is screwed ,made this point in a email to customer surport,its possible they came up with the supercell ID to let existing players make and use more accounts?? Who knows but something gotta change as imao the games at critical mass one more ♥♥♥♥ up and games done

[Bishalb1]

Clan ID:#2QG2PR2P
Clan name: Indian Clashers
War Start Date: 04-April-2018
War Start Time (GMT): 6:15 AM
Comment:


WE HAD A WAR RECENTLY AGAINST "war star asia(#Q99GU2L8)"

WE HAD
-19 TH11(4 NEW TH11)
-5 TH10.5
-6 TH10
-13 TH9
-4 TH8
-1 TH7


WHILE THE OPPONENT HAD
-15 TH11(ALL MAXED OUT)
-6 TH10.5(MAX OFFENSE)
-14 TH10
-3 TH9,5
-12 TH9


WE HAVE BEEN HAVING SIMILAR BREAK DOWNS WITH UN EVEN TOWN HALL LEVELS BEING MATCHED MOSTLY PUTTING US AT A DISADVANTAGE

Lol I thought you're complaining on behalf of your opponent for a mismatch. 😂

[elbowmonkey]

Clan ID: #Q0PU82PU
Clan name: Winged Seals
War Start Date: April 6, 2018 (war day, not prep day)
War Start Time (GMT): 2am-ish
Comment: Our war paricipants are not engineered or rushed, enemy clan ("No Way Back!!!" #9L2JQRC9) is heavily engineered. Thanks, I hope this data is helping!

[Teknophilia]

I used to love wars. Not anymore. As soon as you have a match you know whether you’re gonna win or lose. Last war we won easily 15 stars to 4, not exactly a fun war.

Today’s war, we were outmatched by a few engineered th11s and th10s.

6 th11 Versus 4
5 th10 versus 5
3 th9 versus vs 2
1 th8 versus vs 1
0 Th7 versus 3 th7s

Even though I get 6 stars on their top two th11s we run out of steam in the middle. Our bottom 3 can do nothing but clear the defenseless th11 at the very bottom. They use their extra th11s to clear our th10s. We leave a couple th10s with 2 stars and we lose. Sure if our Th10s were a bit better at attacking it could have been a win but it’s a hard game at th10.

No wonder half our clan never opts in.

[KZVG55]

Knowing how these Engineers work with TH11s or 10s designed to bully why don't we try something?

SuperCell let's see you choose a simple Matchmaking System for a while: Match by Town Hall levels and/or Clan Castle.

Eg in this scenario: Strong TH11, 10, 10, 9 clan will get Engineered clan (11,10,10,9) or another similar clan, anything with that setup. Make this apply to smaller wars up to maybe 20v20 or 30v30? Or just prioritize matching up the top 10 maybe?

I know this will cause rushed or new Town Hall players to be disadvantaged and lengthen search times but it's the only way I see us dealing with the scourge of Engineering.

Problem is then Engineers will use weaker maxed town halls on top like 9s, 8s etc and field an 11 or 10 below to fool the Town Hall level matchup. Hmmm....

How about a TH level matchup for the top 5-10 or so and some kind of searching algorithm to scan below for anomalies. By this I mean looking for things like Town Hall 11,10 or 9 far below their town hall levels.

I.e let's say an Engineered clan tries to fool the system like this in a 15 man war:

1) Max 9
2) Max 9
3) Max 9
4) Max 9
5) Max 9
6) Max 8
7) Max 8
8) Max 8
9) Max 8
10) Max 8
11) Max 7
12 Max 7
13) Max7
14) Engineered 11
15) Engineered 10

They would match up against probably a max clan or any other clan running the same top 10 or so in the war search. But they will rely on doing damage with the lower engineers. I'm thinking have the War MM maybe match up the top 5-6 (therefore increasing chances of actually finding an opponent) as well as scanning below for such anomalies.

I'm changing my own answer the whole time which clearly shows how bewildered these Engineers are making everyone!

[vansimon]

My clan Details in the Signature:
Search start Sat 7th April 8:30pm Melb Aust Time
Us:
All TH10 1 100% maxed Def and Troops, not all walls maxed, 2 maxed to near maxed heroes, mostly maxed troops Def well on way and have infernos. Last 2 Low 30’s hero’s, no infernos and Def upgrading including purchase of most new Def (Not .5 bases)
They are TH11 with Warden and some new TH11 Def (no eagle) 3 TH11 (2 with infero) and one TH9 maxed.
Our Top base, with highest troop levels recommended target is #2. If if the game suggests no one in my clan has the #1 base as their recommended target, surely this match should not have been a match for us!

[CraigA66]

Getting sick of having to post in here now!

Clan Name: BaronCorps
Tag: #29R8RG90G
Start time: approx 9:10am 10th April (prep day) (GMT)
End time: 24 hrs after the start

We’re running 3 th11’s (average lvl 3 infernos) with zero (NONE) eagle. A th10 and a brand new th11 below him (not engineered I promise) 3 th9 a th7 and a th6.

We’re facing 2 maxed out th11’s with max infernos and maxed eagle. A th10.5. 3 th9’s then an engineered th11 with max troops. 2 th8’s and a th7.

So basically our bottom 2 bases are pretty much ruled out the war barring 1 attack. We’re now facing 4 max th11’s offence, with two max defence.

I figure the matchmaking is matching offence with opposition defence but this isn’t fair! We’ve got a 100% mark on our sides head and going to have to absolutely nail our attacks to stand the chance of a draw!