Clan War Mismatch - Gathering new infoz (again for science)

[kiwibudz]

UVYCGQL
KIWI
4/11/17
0200 GMT

our clan Opposition
TH 11 - NILL TH 11 - 4
TH 10 - 5 TH 10 - 2
TH 9 - 4 TH 9 - 4
TH 8 - 1 TH 8 - 4
TH 7 - 4 TH 7 - 1

War is 15 v 15
Their #13 is a TH 11 with lvl 4 hound, lvl 7 loons and lvl 5 GW matched against a TH7
Their #15 is a TH 10 with a lvl 15 AQ


We get matches similar to this all the time, and I hear from bloggers over a year ago going on about how the end was in sight for engineered bases and clans. It has got worse over time.
We encourage our players to upgrade and to not engineer their bases, and to be honest I dont know why

[Coola85]

Clan ID: #C0CPYJVP
Clan name: TakeDown
War Start Date: 11/4/2017
War Start Time (GMT): 3:55 AM GMT (I believe)
Comments:

We are currently at war against Clan Name: Lost World (#80VCQLQP). We are a level 3 clan vs they are level 14.
Our team has:
1 Max Th11, with eagle and warden
1 Th10.5 no eagle but with warden
4 Th 10/9.5
6 Th 9/8.5
1 Th8
1 TH7
5 TH 6
1 TH3

Other clan has:
1 Max Th11 with eagle and warden
1 Max Th10 no infernos
4 Th11 with max war troops (either valks, dragons, miners), no infernos but has extra bows (4 bows for the lowest of these 4 TH11). All with warden.
6Th 9/8.5
3 Th8
3 Th6
1 Th9 level troops with TH6 defenses at position 18 on the map.
1 Th3

The issue is a TH11 with any max troops with warden an extra spells can take out any TH10 (even with infernos) without any skill required. Also it is not like our bottom is heavier than theirs. We are outmatched from top to bottom. Please feel free to visit our clan to review more in detail if you feel like. Just mention "forum check" when you request to join so that you are let inside.

Furthermore, we are lvl 3 clan vs their lvl 14, our players are not as experienced (no experienced players wanna join a low level clan). We have no troop upgrades on donations, therefore cc and spell weights is actually against us. Having such match-ups for low level clans is discouraging for new players and new clans from starting. If not rectified would eventually be detrimental to the game.

We have been having such match-ups on alternate wars. However, on the other wars we are evenly matched. But our roster keeps changing as people opt in and out for war, so it is difficult to judge.

Let me know your thoughts or if more information is required.

[Coola85]

Just FYI we are upgrading responsibly but not engineering. We encourage our players to max their defenses as well and get new defenses once all are maxed. Not to skip TH levels without getting all defenses from previous levels.

[Pabo]

Darian,
FYI - When I excluded TH10s from my war spin, I got decent matchups.

If I add even one TH10, everything goes crazy.

Just thought this might be relevant information for you.

[K1nd0fab1gdeal]

Clan ID: #PL8G9QVV
Clan name: 50kingsofwar
War Start Date: November 3rd, 2017
Search Start Time: 5:00 PM GMT
Comment:
We are in 15v15 war we have 5 fully maxed 11s, 5 11s missing walls, new defenses and heroes only, 1 max 10 minus heroes, 1 9.5, 1 max 9, 2 8s. They have 7 fully maxed 11s, 7 11s missing walls, new defenses and heroes, and 1 near max 10.5 They only have 216 wins so we are basically hoping they are not very good otherwise if they just do the routine 2 star 11s, 3 star 10s and lower it would be pretty special for us to win.

[Knk44]

Your clan tag is wrong. It V not W.... #VYG8ORC is your clan tag.

Having said that, you last warred 19 days ago. Also, having looked at your entire clan of 22 players, only ONE th11 had infernos and was missing the eagle. Many, many of your players are engineered, matter fact, the entire clan. If you really wasn’t worried about mismatching, place the missing defense on your entire roster.

For the last 4 years, I have prided myself in never putting money into this game, battling leisurely to get dark loot for heros and not playing so much that I ignore real life...kids, husband, career, etc. however, I am still very competitive and I focus on offense, so that I can 3-star tough boards, not to "engineer" the game. There are no rules to say what you can and cannot upgrade or add to your base, so this concept of "engineered" boards is atrocious. All I care about is playing wars with my husband and some friends, as it oddly enough keeps us in touch. Of course it is fun to win and when you string together a perfect battle, it's great, but I understand losing too, and I just want to war a couple nights a week with friends who live farther away. (Sorry that I was mistaken...19 days of waiting for a war match, I guess that is acceptable, but a month, geez! Getting a bit technical.)

[StormHeart]

Clans Info:

Our tag: #8LJ0CV98 Stormy Knights
Their Tag: #YRLYJC8R
War Date: 11-6-17
War Time (Manila) approximately: 8:30 pm

It's not an impossible war for us to win. Winning or losing isn't really a major factor in determining if the match is fair. The matchmaking system cannot account for skills.

The biggest issue in this war is their TH10 in the middle of the map. It's not so strong as to make the war impossible for us to win because it probably cannot three star our top two TH9s. The only troop it has maxed is it's Dragon. But it could have been miners and then the war would be impossible. It's a poor match but we've faced far worse.

The improvements in the MM are obvious but the problem is these TH10s and 11 getting in with one troop maxed. I don't think, this one chose wisely. This is the problem with trying to include the offense in the war weight. Engineers typically max only one or two troops. Often they have maxed their camps too. This one did not max camps (troops are 235 at match) and also gives us a chance to win.

We have a war win streak of 7. Three of our last four war were unfair and they all included clans playing games with the MM. You'll see we have one TH9 a bit weak on ground defense. It's being worked on. Our other bases are not weak on defense and are well balanced.

I do appreciate the improvements we've seen. It's been eight wars since we had an impossible war and we lost that one. In that case, if I remember correctly, they too had one TH10 in the middle of the map but it had level 3 miners and easily destroyed our top two TH9s. That did happen, just not sure if it was our last loss. I do think it was one war before the last announced update tot he MM.

Update after the war started and the TH10 attacked. The Th10 has 2 lvl 7 teslas and 1 lvl 8 along with its extra troops and lvl 9 AQ this could be a huge red flag. Its defensive war weight is 57. Very irritating. When it comes to war matching throw them in with the others that it takes 3 days for them to find a war. No, I have no sympathy for people that play this way. Camps and defenses that don't belong in the war weight should be a huge flag for the mm.

[jerdiya]

Once again,
War Start Date: 04/11/2017
War Start Time: 16:20 +3 GMT

20v20, Since last war pulled more Th10s from enemy side, we decided to add few more TH10s, so this time we have got; 3 TH11s against our ONLY TH11, TH10 counts are equal.

SC myself & my clan already in the mood to give up on wars, nothing fun at all, even at 2x loot/ 2x XP, there are only 20 members ready to war out of 47.

And for the FINAL time our clan has decided that no more war until this get fixed.

War Start Date: 06/11/2017
War Start Time: 16:05 +3 GMT

20v20
US 1 TH11, 5 TH10, 7 TH9, 5 TH8 & 2 TH7
Enemy 5 TH11, 5 TH10, 7 TH9, 2 TH8 & 1 TH7

[Ak7lives]

Clan ID: #2UPG8YYR
Clan name: Wisconsin
War Start Date: 11/05/17
War Start Time (GMT): 02:14 GMT
Comment: The war looked pretty fair until we looked closer. First we saw their mini TH11 at position 21 with max attack troops. We don’t have any minis to match. That mini ended up taking out our 6 & 7. Similar situation in our previous war - #21 took out our 1 & 2. I’d list that one as well, but there’s no way for me to go back and get the start time. They also have 7 bases with infernos and one eagle versus 4 bases with infernos and no eagles for us.

[rminhaj]

Dear Supercell,

This is for your kind information last couple of the clan war we have been faced too much difficulty with opponent clan war base.
What's wrong with us regarding clan war we can't understand.
We have been took Th9 which is the 1st position but we got Th11 opponent base which is 1st position in the clan war and besides too much rush id's also in the same war.
Is it possible to attack Max Th11 by Th9
We are very disappointed to see this type of opponent clan war base.

So please take care from next war regarding this matter. Otherwise our interest will go away to play Clash of Clan.

Best Regards,

Clan name: GEM CYBER'71

Clan Tag #LRY8YY8J