Clan War Mismatch - Gathering new infoz (again for science)

[DEANO2104]

Wolf Pack 2.0 (Clan Name)
222QG0G2 (Clan Tag) 0 may be an O
War end time-approx. 16:12 GMT
War start time 17:12 GMT approx.

Their clan had 2 TH12s to our 1 TH12. Their TH12s had max infernos and eagles, and ours was almost fully maxed. They also had 3 engineered bases no.11 and no.10 and no.12 which included 2 TH11s and a TH10.

This was impossible for us to win, as it is extremely hard to 3-star TH12s. That meant the most we could possibly get within reason would be 43/45. They, however, could easily achieve 44/45 as they only had 1 TH12 to hit. Also, their engineers cleaned up our top, which was completely unfair, as their 3-5 were absolute trash attackers. We had lost from the start. We had 1 TH12, putting us at a severe disadvantage to their 2, and no engineered bases compared to their 3.
Please rectify this problem. We were on a large streak, and this is actually the 2nd war in a row we have had 1 TH12 to 2 TH12s, which is ridiculous matchmaking. We only won last war due to a stroke of luck, and excellent attacking, but having a severe disadvantage 2 wars in a row makes it impossible for us to win!
We need to get rid of engineers. .5ing is okay, but buildings from at least 2 TH levels below must be built. It makes wars impossible, as they have low weight but can destroy our top.

[Kevko95]

Clan Name: Romans 8:37
Tag: YYPGRCCC
War Start: 10/4/18 12:00 EST
War End: 10/6/18 12:00 EST

Problem: we currently have no TH12s in war yet we are currently matched up against two of them. We have a decent clan, but we can never clear those top two bases even though we are almost fully maxed TH11s. Their defenses are too strong and their offenses easily take out our top four. We can never win war likes this unless they make a huge mistake. This has happened to us over and over again. When will it stop?

[GreatOz]

Clan name: In The dark
Clan tag: #LRCPCYGV
Start war 10/6/18
We matched finally with a Russian clan #9GRRPPPQ .. we do have 2 small low defence engineered and 1 .5 base. We matched with clan that has 7 engineers ranging from th8-th11 with max troops and many .5 bases. Very unbalanced. They have 0 th7 and we have few. So our th7 gonna hit their th8s engineered? Our 10s have to hit their th 11 .5 bases with max troops?
Our th9s have to hit their th10 engineered? Besides war search took several days of trying we get this. Our 2 small engineered shouldn't cause this bad matchup.

[Daralight]

Clan ID: #8UU228LC
Clan name: Friends and Fun
War Start Date: 10/08/2018
War Start Time (GMT): 0400
Comment: mismatch top to bottom

we are having 3 th12’s, 2 th11’s 3 th10’s and rest 9’s in a 20/20 war vs
4 th12’s with the bottom th12 being about as strong as our #1 th12, only difference on their #4 is he hasn’t hit his infernos yet.
their #1-2-3 are all stronger, with #1 being maxed (yes fully maxed out)
2 th11’s, 3 th10’s, 9’s all the way to #19 (the bottoms ones being tougher then their mirrors) and a th11 engi at spot 20.

we are a team of maxers, so our bases are solid, none engi’d.

we feel for the first time in a while like we have a serious disadvantage.
needless to say after a few hours in its pretty clear they will perfect us.
they didn’t triple our top3 all in one go, but might as well have. What’s left with the advantage they have is peanuts for them.

only chance we’ll have is to also perfect them, needless to say we aren’t allowed to make mistakes since those will cost us dearly.

[Thegreatpuma]

Wolf Pack 2.0 (Clan Name)
222QG0G2 (Clan Tag) 0 may be an O

Is Wolf Pack your clan or theirs?

Clan Name: Romans 8:37
Tag: YYPGRCCC

Is Romans your clan or theirs?

Remember that if you have max TH11 at the top you are more than likely going to match clans running lower end TH12 at the top.

Clan name: In The dark
Clan tag: #LRCPCYGV
Start war 10/6/18
We matched finally with a Russian clan #9GRRPPPQ .. we do have 2 small low defence engineered and 1 .5 base. We matched with clan that has 7 engineers ranging from th8-th11 with max troops and many .5 bases. Very unbalanced. They have 0 th7 and we have few. So our th7 gonna hit their th8s engineered? Our 10s have to hit their th 11 .5 bases with max troops?
Our th9s have to hit their th10 engineered? Besides war search took several days of trying we get this. Our 2 small engineered shouldn't cause this bad matchup.

First, you're warring with a huge range of town halls. In addition you've got your own engineers. What is going to happen with a wide lineup the includes offensively heavy bases without matching defense is that you're going to get periodically out engineered and out maxed. Get rid of the engineers and/or drop the bases below TH8/9

Clan ID: #8UU228LC
Clan name: Friends and Fun
War Start Date: 10/08/2018
War Start Time (GMT): 0400
Comment: mismatch top to bottom

we are having 3 th12’s, 2 th11’s 3 th10’s and rest 9’s in a 20/20 war vs
4 th12’s with the bottom th12 being about as strong as our #1 th12, only difference on their #4 is he hasn’t hit his infernos yet.
their #1-2-3 are all stronger, with #1 being maxed (yes fully maxed out)
2 th11’s, 3 th10’s, 9’s all the way to #19 (the bottoms ones being tougher then their mirrors) and a th11 engi at spot 20.

we are a team of maxers, so our bases are solid, none engi’d.

we feel for the first time in a while like we have a serious disadvantage.
needless to say after a few hours in its pretty clear they will perfect us.
they didn’t triple our top3 all in one go, but might as well have. What’s left with the advantage they have is peanuts for them.

only chance we’ll have is to also perfect them, needless to say we aren’t allowed to make mistakes since those will cost us dearly.

The downside to maxing bases is the matchmaker has to match you with either (1) other maxers or (2) the closest possible match outside that. What this then means is you're more likely to pull lower end higher level THs as there are more of them in existence. On thing confuses me...you say their bottom TH12 hasn't added infernos? Didn't think this was possible.

Also, running straight maxer bases isn't a solution to not getting the engi clans/engi bases occasionally, just makes it more likely you won't match them. Honestly looking at cocp.it, it looks like you guys do well even when you're out THed (i.e. war vs Light of Heaven). I wouldn't sweat the occasional mismatch. Just keep on keeping on.

[AkLongarms]

Clan ID: #LJQRYYJJ
Clan name: The Collectors
War Start Date: 10/8/18
War Start Time (GMT): 05:35 am AK time
Comment:
We matched our one Lvl5 th12 against 2 lvl5 th12’s and a lvl4 th12. All three of theirs have max heroes. I could understand if we matched our 1 to 2 th12s or even 3 if they were weaker, but if you take the weight of the top three bases we are way out matched. Th11 troops don’t stand much of a chance against max heros and high lvl Th12s. We all know wars are won and lost at the top.

[Thegreatpuma]

Clan ID: #LJQRYYJJ
Clan name: The Collectors
War Start Date: 10/8/18
War Start Time (GMT): 05:35 am AK time
Comment:
We matched our one Lvl5 th12 against 2 lvl5 th12’s and a lvl4 th12. All three of theirs have max heroes. I could understand if we matched our 1 to 2 th12s or even 3 if they were weaker, but if you take the weight of the top three bases we are way out matched. Th11 troops don’t stand much of a chance against max heros and high lvl Th12s. We all know wars are won and lost at the top.

Is the Collectors your clan or your opponent?

[AkLongarms]

Is the Collectors your clan or your opponent?

My clan is collectors.

[GreatOz]

So your saying because of the wide range of th, in order for us to find a fair match is tell people in our clan if ur th9 and under u cant war because u make it unfair. That alone sounds unfair to be honest. Not every clan is gonna have all 10s or all 9s. And God for bid ur rushed or engineered u def cant war now.. because if we add 1 engineered u will cause us to face 9 engineered. Yeah that sounds fair to. They need to make the war system fair to everyone like they clain and I'm not seeing it being fair.

[Daralight]

The downside to maxing bases is the matchmaker has to match you with either (1) other maxers or (2) the closest possible match outside that. What this then means is you're more likely to pull lower end higher level THs as there are more of them in existence. On thing confuses me...you say their bottom TH12 hasn't added infernos? Didn't think this was possible.

He has added infernos, he hasn’t hit them yet as in our #1 has max infernos for th12, their #4 has max th11 infernos. This was the only difference between their #4’s development and ours. hope that makes more sense then