Clan War Mismatch - Gathering new infoz (again for science)

[twinblade123]

had a few questionable ones. but nothing to bad. currently on a 15 win streak

[DARDANIUS]

A couple wars ago, we had a matchup where their #4 was an engineered TH11. Top 3 on both sides were TH10. They got a perfect war.

Otherwise, we've gotten solid matchups. Not running TH12s since we have one who rushed to get Siege Machines, but would screw up our matchups.

[Draegar]

Funny think is that i play in several clans and while most of these clans have more or less the same compositions to go into war (1 TH12, 2-3 TH11, 4-5 TH10, couple of 9s and maybe some lower bases too), in some clans we constantly run into unwinnable wars while in others we never have an issue. Then, when I look in some of the clans my RL friends play in, it is the same. Some have these problems all the time, some never.

[JusMe]

Was anything 'fixed'? When? Where? How? ....

It's like Draegar says: it seems very much hit or miss at random

[samratulangi]

Was anything 'fixed'? When? Where? How? ....

It's like Draegar says: it seems very much hit or miss at random

SC has made several fixes,

1. August 2017, increases offense weight portion in the MM, this can be seen from many clan losing long ws since then
2. Few months after that increased GW offense weight, reducing th10vs th11 mismatched
3. Lately they reduce the weight of inferno and EA in the MM

many forum regulars has been noticed big difference since then, and happy with the results.

but still more people feel MM is broken because, it s difficult for them to have objective view on the match, and lacking the understanding on def and off weight in the MM, especially if they face lopsided bases from the other side, without even seeing the whole clan potential

[AFrostyBlaze]

Just curious if anyone else is now having bad war matches with a lot of engineers again all of a sudden? You know, TH11s with th9s weapons but max troops, or max troops in war thanks to potion use?

Anytime we bring a th12 in war, the random spin is terrible. Feels as bad to us as it did before it was "fixed". Before th12 we started getting good matches. No engineers. Sweet. Almost a good match like an arranged war. Now it is that sad matching again that turns you off random spins.

Others getting this now, or you matching good? Just curious.

If the matches are good for you, are you bringing in 12s?

not sure, we war at such a heavy composition we don't run into engineers or at least very good ones. sometimes we see a clan that is still using 10.5s and we'll get something crazy like a 10 eagle base advantage but most clans have begun to catch on that its not a good idea not to have their eagles or higher defenses on their 12

our matches are fine, we're usually down 2 th12 but up 3-4 th11 and a few th10s. our composition is around 18-25 th12, 12-16 th11, rest th10

we're up to a 37 win streak, about to be 38

[Skrags]

I'm always interested in these kind of threads, especially those doing TH11 down wars.
In general, MM seems to be in a good place.

My own clan which usually runs 4-6 TH12s , in either 15v or 20v has seen lots of fair wars recently. We are struggling to put a streak together, but our losses are certainly not down to the MM algorithm. Opponents with lopsided bases are not effecting the outcome of wars.
We are running at about 50% win rate in the last couple of months.
Our weekend war was really fun and exciting, though we lost on % 54-54, but it was great to participate in!

[Thebear3819]

We have had a few folks go to th12 and have had a rash of like 10 straight engi clans much like we have read on several posts on this thread. These wars are absolutely no fun. Good engis are usually too good to overcome a bunch extra th11 hits for us. Bad engis run anti-2’s and we perfect the with half a dozen attacks left. Either way zero fun. Furthermore, we are a farm war clan with some league caliber players (on family clans league rosters, etc.) and we are getting so burnt out. Have tried removing all new th guys from the spin (formerly 9.5’s/10.5), still matches engis. Last night we spun a 3/8/14 breakdown war without th9’s. We let it ride for 6 hours. No match. Respun about 3 hours ago, still no match. What is happening?!? How do I get a legit reasonable war for my clan?!?

[Thebear3819]

Update: Just matched a 6/7/12 breakdown. -3 th12 advantage. All massive heroes and bases. Amazing work on the matchmaking algorithm guys... unbelievable.

[littledoctor]

Just curious if anyone else is now having bad war matches with a lot of engineers again all of a sudden? You know, TH11s with th9s weapons but max troops, or max troops in war thanks to potion use?

By all of a sudden do you mean "since the June update"?

Yes, since they seem to have decreased the weight of infernos and eagle, and increased proportionally the weight of point defenses, this means that the offense to defense ratio of 9.11s and .5 accounts is not as lopsided as it was before the update. Therefore it's reasonable that clans that engineer only a little, or not at all, will match clans that engineer a little more than they do. In theory you should still not see the mega engineers who do a 20v20 with 15 9.11s.

Anytime we bring a th12 in war, the random spin is terrible. Feels as bad to us as it did before it was "fixed". Before th12 we started getting good matches. No engineers. Sweet. Almost a good match like an arranged war. Now it is that sad matching again that turns you off random spins.

Others getting this now, or you matching good? Just curious.

A few things could explain this. TH12 have so much war weight that the differences due to enemy engineering are a smaller % of the total weight.

It surprises me though that matching engineers when you have a TH12 anchor is looked at as a bad thing. Theoretically, the engineers should be at a disadvantage, with fewer eagles and infernos.

If the matches are good for you, are you bringing in 12s?

We always match engineers (because we bring engineers), and our matches are almost always good, by which I mean, the war is won or lost based on how well we do against the enemy TH12s and how well they do against our TH12s (we typically war with 1-3 TH12s on top).