Clan War Mismatch - Gathering new infoz (again for science)

[wotanwaton]

dont you want to show some screenshots? only th level tells nothing about their bases.

[2222]

Try not going all the way down to th7s in your roster, it might help.

[Somethingnotalreadypicked]

It’s fairly even at th10 and they have some eagle-less 11’s (engis). Our map is 12’s/11’s/10’s, we don’t mess with engineering outside of .5’s for new th levels, and even then, it’s not a long time. Also they are below .500 (which is odd considering the heroes and general non-rushed nature of their top 8-10 accounts. So who knows. I’ve tripled a 5 star legit th12 with an anti-2 layout with my near max th11, so I know it can be done. We just wanna face legit clans and not have to wait 12 hours for a match.

.5s can actually be a huge detriment.

[AFrostyBlaze]

It’s fairly even at th10 and they have some eagle-less 11’s (engis). Our map is 12’s/11’s/10’s, we don’t mess with engineering outside of .5’s for new th levels, and even then, it’s not a long time. Also they are below .500 (which is odd considering the heroes and general non-rushed nature of their top 8-10 accounts. So who knows. I’ve tripled a 5 star legit th12 with an anti-2 layout with my near max th11, so I know it can be done. We just wanna face legit clans and not have to wait 12 hours for a match.

.5s can actually be a huge detriment.

I agree. How developed are your .5s op

[dreza]

ha that's nothing. We are up against 3 TH12s and we only have 1 and a mid TH11. Those 12s all have eagles and high defences. Any chance of winning? Dunno. I know they won't get perfect stars on us due to our anchor but depends if we can get higher than them.

Fair? Depends who u ask. Easy, yes for our TH9s and below. Hard. Yes for our Th12 and 11. Lucky our anchor loves pressure

[Thebear3819]

Not developed at all. Brand new th10’s basically.

[Thebear3819]

So do we tell our guys to drop infernos immediately and war with th9 troops? Don’t like benching guys just to bench em.

[AFrostyBlaze]

So do we tell our guys to drop infernos immediately and war with th9 troops? Don’t like benching guys just to bench em.

you won't get a consistent answer on this forum or at least i think it is unlikely that you will. many people have different thoughts on when to drop infernos/eagles.

personally what has worked for my clan has been th10s dropping infernos after camps, lab, cc, spell factory upgrade are complete regardless of hero level long as they were above 25/25 before upgrading to th10. (preferably 2 war troops are upgraded by then such as bowlers/hogs)

what has worked for us hasn't worked for everyone though. some will say to wait until you max point d and more troop upgrades or raise heroes up a lot first.

we need more specific information about your line-up in wars that you feel are mismatched in order to determine what might be the likely cause.

some clans punish themselves by bringing in th3-7 when they have th11/12 at the top so their issue is unrelated to having a couple .5s. obviously that wouldn't apply to your case but there tend to be commonalities between what makes a good match or bad match.

[Thebear3819]

The issue isn’t that it’s uneven as much as it just sucks matching engineered clans. Not even about wins and losses, it’s about overall enjoyment and player retention. We win most wars anyway and usually bury them with perfects a bunch as well (see warmatch rankings for farm wars). Then we run into a group with extra 12’s and 11’s that can actually play and don’t stand a chance. In either case, it’s not much fun to war. I guess the crux of the question is what do I have to do to have a close to even matchup without internet/anti-2’s... so we can enjoy wars again. Seems supercell is pushing out decent farm clans in favor of engineers or league clans. Clans with skillful players who don’t want to league necessarily pay the price. Maybe my clans niche is deteriorating.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[AFrostyBlaze]

The issue isn’t that it’s uneven as much as it just sucks matching engineered clans. Not even about wins and losses, it’s about overall enjoyment and player retention. We win most wars anyway and usually bury them with perfects a bunch as well (see warmatch rankings for farm wars). Then we run into a group with extra 12’s and 11’s that can actually play and don’t stand a chance. In either case, it’s not much fun to war. I guess the crux of the question is what do I have to do to have a close to even matchup without internet/anti-2’s... so we can enjoy wars again. Seems supercell is pushing out decent farm clans in favor of engineers or league clans. Clans with skillful players who don’t want to league necessarily pay the price. Maybe my clans niche is deteriorating.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

maybe it is the specific clan war size or something. i always felt more engineers hang around 20-30 wars. we've seen kind of the opposite at 40v40. we use th10-12 but mostly 12/11. breakdown this war is 23/14/3 and we're against a clan with 23/13/4. the catch is that they are trying to engineer and have a lot of 9.11s so we got 7 extra max gigas in th12, 9 extra eagles at th11.

many wars we are down by 2-6 th12s but overcome it with the th11 number advantage and generally matches are pretty fair on paper.