War preference questions for max th10’s

[ReplicantRachel]

Before introduction of th11 it was common to see max th9 being paired vs rushed th10, I think it is still true but we don’t see as many complaints from th9’s like we do from th10’s regarding this issue.

So I have some questions for people with max th10 bases:

1. What do you think you should be matching with in war?

2. If your answer is only other th10, why? Are rushed bases allowed in your ideal game?

3. If you think some degree of rushed th11 is acceptable vs a th10, what would be fair in your view?

The point I'm trying to make:

For me a max Th10 means that base is ready for extra challenge, specially if it has max heroes.

By the time you get king and queen up to level 40, you should have been able to acquire some expertise in war, unless of course you gem those heroes you might actually be in trouble (I knew a guy that max gemmed his heroes and boy he was a terrible attacker!)

So getting a rushed th11 vs max th10 doesn’t seem too bad for me either.

Good observations in that thread of yours Skrags.

Yes it looks like th9-th11max bases get sorted out by the levels and presence of: high level king and queen, infernos, warden and EA

Th9 has max heroes? Get a rushed th10 with inferno
Likewise a max th10 will get a rushed th11 too.

We are well used to th9@&10 game, and generally speaking rushed th10’s are not so great so I think it comes as a shock for some th10’s to see rushed th11 performing at a level of max th10 and consider them a big threat, but in reality it is just as hard for them as it is for the th10’s

I will repeat here what I have been saying in other threads as well, it is no piece of cake for a rushed th11 to 3 star a max th10.

Documenting here some examples:

https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...Gives-Us-a-Gem


also:

Making my case here that rushed th11 heroes (15/15/20) is not piece of cake vs max th10.

In the video below there are 3 full fledged th11 attacks (dragons, laloon and hog attacks) with high level heroes fail on max th10, and this is a video of high performing CWL clans (not your casual noob) so they must know what they are doing no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhJB4CmAJ40


Edit requested by 2222:

The attacks in the video I’m taking about are:

@16:22 - dragons
@27:10 - hogs
@37:28 - golaloon

Another example:

Come on... this is so stupid.

It was a 100%, but the AI of the Grand Warden it's so... Just see it.

(Video without sound)

[AFrostyBlaze]

I don't mind my th10s matching with any inferno th10 up to th11s with under level 5 warden.

My th10s have nearly all lava walls, 35/37 heroes and max th10 d.

I don't plan to keep them at th10 once heroes are max they will be going th11.

It's hard for me to fault the match maker on absolute max 10s matching 11s because obviously max max 10s are rarer than rushed 11s.

I do think they match th11s too often though and more weight needs to be added to th11 somehow to reduce the chance of this.

Th10 v 10 is super hard if the base has level 3 infernos so I think that nearly any level 3 inferno base would be a decent match for a max 10, or at least more fair than a th11

I guess another fair match could be a high offense infernoless th11 since we would have a good shot to 3 each other

[Skrags]

Before introduction of th11 it was common to see max th9 being paired vs rushed th10, I think it is still true but we don’t see as many complaints from th9’s like we do from th10’s regarding this issue.

So I have some questions for people with max th10 bases:

1. What do you think you should be matching with in war?

2. If your answer is only other th10, why? Are rushed bases allowed in your ideal game?

3. If you think some degree of rushed th11 is acceptable vs a th10, what would be fair in your view?

Hi Rachel,

Back in May 2017, I posted this thread on the subject of 'Heroes v Wardens' :-

https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...es-v-Wardens-!

It was an observation, based upon the historic 'Heroes v Infernos' wars that many forum contributors have experienced and discussed previously.

Looking at 4 wars in a row, we saw relative parity with regard to both offence and defence, despite our opponents having greater numbers of Wardens.
In my opinion, before war even commenced, I deemed all the wars to be 'fair', and this proved to be true results wise.

I concluded at the time, that there was a huge difference between 'big' 45/45/20 TH11's and rushed limited offence TH11's even with Wardens.

So, I have answered your questions 1-3) by default I suppose!
Hope this helps!

[ReplicantRachel]

I don't mind my th10s matching with any inferno th10 up to th11s with under level 5 warden.

My th10s have nearly all lava walls, 35/37 heroes and max th10 d.

I don't plan to keep them at th10 once heroes are max they will be going th11.

It's hard for me to fault the match maker on absolute max 10s matching 11s because obviously max max 10s are rarer than rushed 11s.

I do think they match th11s too often though and more weight needs to be added to th11 somehow to reduce the chance of this.

Th10 v 10 is super hard if the base has level 3 infernos so I think that nearly any level 3 inferno base would be a decent match for a max 10, or at least more fair than a th11

I guess another fair match could be a high offense infernoless th11 since we would have a good shot to 3 each other

For me a max Th10 means that base is ready for extra challenge, specially if it has max heroes.

By the time you get king and queen up to level 40, you should have been able to acquire some expertise in war, unless of course you gem those heroes you might actually be in trouble (I knew a guy that max gemmed his heroes and boy he was a terrible attacker!)

So getting a rushed th11 vs max th10 doesn’t seem too bad for me either.

Hi Rachel,

Back in May 2017, I posted this thread on the subject of 'Heroes v Wardens' :-

https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...es-v-Wardens-!

It was an observation, based upon the historic 'Heroes v Infernos' wars that many forum contributors have experienced and discussed previously.

Looking at 4 wars in a row, we saw relative parity with regard to both offence and defence, despite our opponents having greater numbers of Wardens.
In my opinion, before war even commenced, I deemed all the wars to be 'fair', and this proved to be true results wise.

I concluded at the time, that there was a huge difference between 'big' 45/45/20 TH11's and rushed limited offence TH11's even with Wardens.

So, I have answered your questions 1-3) by default I suppose!
Hope this helps!

Good observations in that thread of yours Skrags.

Yes it looks like th9-th11max bases get sorted out by the levels and presence of: high level king and queen, infernos, warden and EA

Th9 has max heroes? Get a rushed th10 with inferno
Likewise a max th10 will get a rushed th11 too.

We are well used to th9@&10 game, and generally speaking rushed th10’s are not so great so I think it comes as a shock for some th10’s to see rushed th11 performing at a level of max th10 and consider them a big threat, but in reality it is just as hard for them as it is for the th10’s

I will repeat here what I have been saying in other threads as well, it is no piece of cake for a rushed th11 to 3 star a max th10. Documenting here some examples:

https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...Gives-Us-a-Gem

also:

Continuing my debate about low level th11 heroes:

Making my case here that rushed th11 heroes (15/15/20) is not piece of cake vs max th10.

In the video below there are 3 full fledged th11 attacks (dragons, laloon and hog attacks) with high level heroes fail on max th10, and this is a video of high performing CWL clans (not your casual noob) so they must know what they are doing no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhJB4CmAJ40


Edit requested by 2222:

The attacks in the video I’m taking about are:

@16:22 - dragons
@27:10 - hogs
@37:28 - golaloon

[ReplicantRachel]

I will be updating original post in order to make my point that if you make the choice of taking a "maxing your current town hall" path before going to the next level, you will get paired with some sort of rushed base of a higher TH level like it has always been but for some reason max th10's believe it is just so unfair to them.

I will compile in the OP all examples of TH11's (some with max TH11 troops) struggling to get 3 stars versus high level Th10's that I come across for easy access, this is to support my argument that a rushed TH11 is not super unfair like some people with near max TH10 claim it is.

Here's the most recent example:

https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...3#post11171253

[cnaf]

I will be updating original post in order to make my point that if you make the choice of taking a "maxing your current town hall" path before going to the next level, you will get paired with some sort of rushed base of a higher TH level like it has always been but for some reason max th10's believe it is just so unfair to them.

Really, Rachel?

You think any max TH10 worth his/her salt is worried about a rushed TH11? Really?

Let me state it again:

It's the 40/40/15 with TH11 maxed bowlers on the low end - to the 40/40/20 with all maxed TH11 troops that max 10s I know take issue with.

Rushed TH11...that's a knee slapper...

[ExpertSAQ]

1. A casual max th10, or th11 with warden under lvl 5, it really hurts if their warden is above 5 lvl. Also I have encountered cases of matching myself to th11 max or a th9 max many time.

2. Why? Fairness in the war is required. Rushed bases not allowed if doesn't gives any advantage to us.

3. Acceptable only to a small extent, after it, it becomes extreme.
If somebody have bowler to lvl 3 and have a EA and have lvl 5 warden. Seems to have only 3 things but game changer

[ReplicantRachel]

Really, Rachel?

You think any max TH10 worth his/her salt is worried about a rushed TH11? Really?

Let me state it again:

It's the 40/40/15 with TH11 maxed bowlers on the low end - to the 40/40/20 with all maxed TH11 troops that max 10s I know take issue with.

Rushed TH11...that's a knee slapper...

I agree with you cnaf, I still see other max th10’s complaining about rushed th11’s though (I know at least one GASP that complains about it also :P)

1. A casual max th10, or th11 with warden under lvl 5, it really hurts if their warden is above 5 lvl. Also I have encountered cases of matching myself to th11 max or a th9 max many time.

2. Why? Fairness in the war is required. Rushed bases not allowed if doesn't gives any advantage to us.

3. Acceptable only to a small extent, after it, it becomes extreme.
If somebody have bowler to lvl 3 and have a EA and have lvl 5 warden. Seems to have only 3 things but game changer

I’m not sure what you are trying to say :/

[ExpertSAQ]

I’m not sure what you are trying to say :/

just what you asked

[ReplicantRachel]

just what you asked

Oh lol

Thanks for answering the questionnaire